How to fix the bootup screen logo after running setup

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
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SNIP

@echo off - hides echo and below except for anything which
has its own display or which you request verification

Right, thanks... see prev. reply...

SIGH...




Yeah, saw that, I'm not getting what you want?
Is it NO screen as in blank, or a specific background during boot, or no
menu, some combination, or ... ??

It probably just me, but I'm not understanding what you're trying to
accomplish here...

Wait, a re-read... oh, so what you want is no interference with
Natasha, must look good.. anyway..

The echo statement as previously shown AS THE FIRST line in
autoexec.bat, then check for any sound [the number one offender], video,
or other drivers that might be loaded from the autoexec.bat [or
config.sys if you have one] which provide verification of loading.
If they came with info, read it for the command line option to repress
the verification. If no info, then try playing around with removing /v
or adding /-v in autoexec, or better still, post the autoexec and config
and we may be able to figure it out.

If you happen to have a resource hack tool, hex editor, File
Investigator, QuickView Plus, or similar, look at the offending loading
application for the commands within the file...

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MEB wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

Yeah, saw that, I'm not getting what you want?
Is it NO screen as in blank, or a specific background
during boot, or no menu, some combination, or ... ??

It probably just me, but I'm not understanding what you're
trying to
accomplish here...

Wait, a re-read... oh, so what you want is no interference
with
Natasha, must look good..

Well, I actually don't find her /that/ attractive, but it made a
good startup screen...
It's nice to see that someone who was a model (rarely possessing
any talents, just currently-appealing appearance) originally
actually made it as an actress.

anyway..

The echo statement as previously shown AS THE FIRST line
in autoexec.bat

SNIP

better still,
post the autoexec and config and we may be able to figure
it out.

There is nothing in them except a placeholder text from System
Commander (boot manager) and @ECHO OFF in autoexec.

And it has /always/ happened, before I installed System
Commander (I know there are MANY boot programs but I have used
their Partition Commander and it works very well, and so far
this {SC} does too).

If you happen to have a resource hack tool, hex editor,
File
Investigator, QuickView Plus, or similar, look at the
offending loading application for the commands within the
file...

I have resource tuner, have fixed the HORRID icons of an
otherwise great program, ThumbsPlus (OLD version) and a few
others, but this is not a program unless we call Win98SE a
program and that may be not /exactly/ correct for a variety of
reasons...

But that is a suggestion worth exploring in other situations...
I have only used that program to change ugly icons so far...

Thanks MEB, and thanks to all others for all the responses...


--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

MEB wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

Yeah, saw that, I'm not getting what you want?
Is it NO screen as in blank, or a specific background
during boot, or no menu, some combination, or ... ??

It probably just me, but I'm not understanding what you're
trying to
accomplish here...

Wait, a re-read... oh, so what you want is no interference
with
Natasha, must look good..

Well, I actually don't find her /that/ attractive, but it made a
good startup screen...
It's nice to see that someone who was a model (rarely possessing
any talents, just currently-appealing appearance) originally
actually made it as an actress.

anyway..

The echo statement as previously shown AS THE FIRST line
in autoexec.bat

SNIP

better still,
post the autoexec and config and we may be able to figure
it out.

There is nothing in them except a placeholder text from System
Commander (boot manager) and @ECHO OFF in autoexec.

And it has /always/ happened, before I installed System
Commander (I know there are MANY boot programs but I have used
their Partition Commander and it works very well, and so far
this {SC} does too).

If you happen to have a resource hack tool, hex editor,
File
Investigator, QuickView Plus, or similar, look at the
offending loading application for the commands within the
file...

I have resource tuner, have fixed the HORRID icons of an
otherwise great program, ThumbsPlus (OLD version) and a few
others, but this is not a program unless we call Win98SE a
program and that may be not /exactly/ correct for a variety of
reasons...

But that is a suggestion worth exploring in other situations...
I have only used that program to change ugly icons so far...

Thanks MEB, and thanks to all others for all the responses...


--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

Yeah, saw that, I'm not getting what you want?
Is it NO screen as in blank, or a specific background
during boot, or no menu, some combination, or ... ??

It probably just me, but I'm not understanding what you're
trying to
accomplish here...

Wait, a re-read... oh, so what you want is no interference
with
Natasha, must look good..

Well, I actually don't find her /that/ attractive, but it made a
good startup screen...
It's nice to see that someone who was a model (rarely possessing
any talents, just currently-appealing appearance) originally
actually made it as an actress.

anyway..

The echo statement as previously shown AS THE FIRST line
in autoexec.bat

SNIP

better still,
post the autoexec and config and we may be able to figure
it out.

There is nothing in them except a placeholder text from System
Commander (boot manager) and @ECHO OFF in autoexec.

And it has /always/ happened, before I installed System
Commander (I know there are MANY boot programs but I have used
their Partition Commander and it works very well, and so far
this {SC} does too).

AH,,, okay, I have another point to ponder, haven't used System
Commander since... when.... 94 or 5 maybe...

Just running through old memories --- wasn't there a boot screen
associated with that, yeah, so why is the 98 boot menu being used also,,
uhm so 9X DOS and Safe Mode can be accessed?? okay maybe... so menu
options from System Commander are referenced in config.sys?? no, don't
think so, maybe just to remind Commander was being used... okay, so
where's the DOS sound driver??? hmm,,, what is referenced by System
Commander to boot to 9X,,, was it in the "real" autoexec and config held
in the Commander controlled boot process?? hmm, don't remember... seems
like there was an administrator's screen... yep,, and changed the MBR
and registry, referencing back to itself.. hmm, what version was that..


If you happen to have a resource hack tool, hex editor,
File
Investigator, QuickView Plus, or similar, look at the
offending loading application for the commands within the
file...

I have resource tuner, have fixed the HORRID icons of an
otherwise great program, ThumbsPlus (OLD version) and a few
others, but this is not a program unless we call Win98SE a
program and that may be not /exactly/ correct for a variety of
reasons...

But that is a suggestion worth exploring in other situations...
I have only used that program to change ugly icons so far...

Thanks MEB, and thanks to all others for all the responses...


--
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

Yeah, saw that, I'm not getting what you want?
Is it NO screen as in blank, or a specific background
during boot, or no menu, some combination, or ... ??

It probably just me, but I'm not understanding what you're
trying to
accomplish here...

Wait, a re-read... oh, so what you want is no interference
with
Natasha, must look good..

Well, I actually don't find her /that/ attractive, but it made a
good startup screen...
It's nice to see that someone who was a model (rarely possessing
any talents, just currently-appealing appearance) originally
actually made it as an actress.

anyway..

The echo statement as previously shown AS THE FIRST line
in autoexec.bat

SNIP

better still,
post the autoexec and config and we may be able to figure
it out.

There is nothing in them except a placeholder text from System
Commander (boot manager) and @ECHO OFF in autoexec.

And it has /always/ happened, before I installed System
Commander (I know there are MANY boot programs but I have used
their Partition Commander and it works very well, and so far
this {SC} does too).

AH,,, okay, I have another point to ponder, haven't used System
Commander since... when.... 94 or 5 maybe...

Just running through old memories --- wasn't there a boot screen
associated with that, yeah, so why is the 98 boot menu being used also,,
uhm so 9X DOS and Safe Mode can be accessed?? okay maybe... so menu
options from System Commander are referenced in config.sys?? no, don't
think so, maybe just to remind Commander was being used... okay, so
where's the DOS sound driver??? hmm,,, what is referenced by System
Commander to boot to 9X,,, was it in the "real" autoexec and config held
in the Commander controlled boot process?? hmm, don't remember... seems
like there was an administrator's screen... yep,, and changed the MBR
and registry, referencing back to itself.. hmm, what version was that..


If you happen to have a resource hack tool, hex editor,
File
Investigator, QuickView Plus, or similar, look at the
offending loading application for the commands within the
file...

I have resource tuner, have fixed the HORRID icons of an
otherwise great program, ThumbsPlus (OLD version) and a few
others, but this is not a program unless we call Win98SE a
program and that may be not /exactly/ correct for a variety of
reasons...

But that is a suggestion worth exploring in other situations...
I have only used that program to change ugly icons so far...

Thanks MEB, and thanks to all others for all the responses...


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:37:33 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:38:45 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:24:27 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

These are the modules in my BIOS:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/L7S...OS/MODULES.TXT

I believe that the "Small OEM Logo" is the "Green" logo.

That sounds like a possibility. And that is your startup screen? I
have no way to look into my own BIOS.

Those modules were extracted using AMI's amibcp.exe utility.

Would it work for me?

I don't think so.

- Franc Zabkar
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:37:33 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:38:45 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:24:27 -0400, "PCR" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

These are the modules in my BIOS:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/L7S...OS/MODULES.TXT

I believe that the "Small OEM Logo" is the "Green" logo.

That sounds like a possibility. And that is your startup screen? I
have no way to look into my own BIOS.

Those modules were extracted using AMI's amibcp.exe utility.

Would it work for me?

I don't think so.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

AH,,, okay, I have another point to ponder, haven't used
System
Commander since... when.... 94 or 5 maybe...

Just running through old memories --- wasn't there a boot
screen associated with that, yeah, so why is the 98 boot
menu being used also,, uhm so 9X DOS and Safe Mode can be
accessed?? okay maybe... so menu options from System
Commander are referenced in config.sys?? no, don't think
so, maybe just to remind Commander was being used... okay,
so where's the DOS sound driver??? hmm,,, what is
referenced by System Commander to boot to 9X,,, was it in
the "real" autoexec and config held in the Commander
controlled boot process?? hmm, don't remember... seems like
there was an administrator's screen... yep,, and changed
the MBR and registry, referencing back to itself.. hmm,
what version was that..

I hope this will suffice for a reply...

A small Sys Com info screen (DOS) DOES appear *after* (AOT
"inside") Natasha for about 20-40 seconds but no startup screen
since I disabled it. IIRC. Did it last night and then had
enough.

The relev. section of MSDOS.INI is now:

BootMenu=0
BootMenuDelay=5
BootKeys=1

(........)

Now I am playing with WHY if I add this:

[386Enh]
MaxPhysPage=30000

and my 98SE settings are

[vcache]
MinFileCache=0
MaxFileCache=524288
chunksize=4096

(irrelevant entries omitted in both)

my system will /not/ boot into Windows but if I "," out the
30000 line, everything is fine.

1 1GB stick and 1 128 MB stick, whatever the hell that adds up
to (I would think 1152 but who the hell knows...

(4MB for AGP aperture even though I have no AGP card, it has to
be set to SOMETHING...)



--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

MEB wrote in
:

SNIP

AH,,, okay, I have another point to ponder, haven't used
System
Commander since... when.... 94 or 5 maybe...

Just running through old memories --- wasn't there a boot
screen associated with that, yeah, so why is the 98 boot
menu being used also,, uhm so 9X DOS and Safe Mode can be
accessed?? okay maybe... so menu options from System
Commander are referenced in config.sys?? no, don't think
so, maybe just to remind Commander was being used... okay,
so where's the DOS sound driver??? hmm,,, what is
referenced by System Commander to boot to 9X,,, was it in
the "real" autoexec and config held in the Commander
controlled boot process?? hmm, don't remember... seems like
there was an administrator's screen... yep,, and changed
the MBR and registry, referencing back to itself.. hmm,
what version was that..

I hope this will suffice for a reply...

A small Sys Com info screen (DOS) DOES appear *after* (AOT
"inside") Natasha for about 20-40 seconds but no startup screen
since I disabled it. IIRC. Did it last night and then had
enough.

The relev. section of MSDOS.INI is now:

BootMenu=0
BootMenuDelay=5
BootKeys=1

(........)

Now I am playing with WHY if I add this:

[386Enh]
MaxPhysPage=30000

and my 98SE settings are

[vcache]
MinFileCache=0
MaxFileCache=524288
chunksize=4096

(irrelevant entries omitted in both)

my system will /not/ boot into Windows but if I "," out the
30000 line, everything is fine.

1 1GB stick and 1 128 MB stick, whatever the hell that adds up
to (I would think 1152 but who the hell knows...

(4MB for AGP aperture even though I have no AGP card, it has to
be set to SOMETHING...)



--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:

SNIP

I wish it just booted to the desktop without /anything/.

You're asking for too little.

I'm getting old... I'm still a jerk, but getting a lot less
demanding...

LOL!

SNIP

I got these in this order when briefly set to show the MS
logo...

(1) COMPAQ logo screen from BIOS.
While showing, I can hit F10 for BIOS Setup.
If BIOS were to post messages, I guess it would be
here.

Mine says "press [something] for POST messages". I looked it up,
but I forget what it was... Didn't make much sense...

My 7470 Desktop just has a the big, red COMPAQ & a blinking curser that
jumps left/right. I must press F10 in between jumps, if I want to get
into BIOS Setup.

You seem to have something extra. If I were willing to trust my memory
this soon after it lied, I'd probably say I doubt I ever saw my BIOS
post a message. For a while a while ago, it was beeping at me quickly
thrice-- but that's gone away! Before that, it was beeping once or
twice-- but I'm fairly sure that's gone too now!

[BTW, I tried the BIOS logo flash utility... it has a variety of
weird restrictions AFA the "image", and it took about twenty
times and the furthest I got was "image palette error" or
something, but I did it just like it's supposed to be, RLE
compressed BMP and everything, 64KB or less... Who cares...

You mean just to alter the Compaq logo screen? I can only guess on that.
Looks like Zabkar is the one for that. Somewhere in the course of this
thread, I came to believe you already had changed your Compaq logo to be
Natashia. I see I was wrong, & you actually said it was the Win98Lite
Logo.sys that was changed.

OK. But THAT should block out Config.sys & Autoexec.bat!

(2) MS Startup Menu.
Mine is set for 10 seconds in MSDOS.sys...
BootMenu=1
BootMenuDelay=10
But hit ENTER, & it goes away immediately.

This I knew, and in spite of getting old, 3 or 5 secs is enough
for me.

I didn't like it that short.

Hit any key, & it stays until ENTER is pressed.

This I did NOT know... No, wait a minute, I did know from my
fingers having done it gazibillions of times... just not
consciously...

Uh-huh. That's how I knew too.

(3) MS logo screen-- Logo.sys in C:\ or the one in IO.sys.
Logo=1 in MSDOS.sys.
This is where DOS would show when Logo=0.

Yup.

Right. But you see it with Logo=1?

(4) The Windows desktop & its wallpaper.
R-Clk Desktop, Properties.

Sure... but what is the point of mentioning it here?

I became mixed up somehow. I thought you were seeing Natashia twice with
(what might be) DOS in between. I thought wallpaper might be the 2nd
Natashia after your Compaq logo (which I know now isn't one-- IF there
are two).

If "@ECHO OFF" controls what you see, what you see is the DOS of
Config.sys & Autoexec.bat. But those shouldn't show when Logo=1 in
MSDOS.sys. The MS logo hid that for me.

Also shows the autoexec.bat file, which I can ECHO out but
then it shows the c:\ECHO OFF

That shouldn't be! It should be obscured behind the MS
logo.

Many things SHOULD BE in MS products. I just look3d at my MS-DOS
5 book... At the time of its printing, the MS slogan used to be
"Making it all make sense[TM]".

Right.

Uh-huh. I'm certainly about to give up. I see System Commander may be
involved too. I must leave that between you & MEB.

That's what happened here. Are you sure you are set
Logo=1 in MSDOS.sys? Can it be the 2nd Frenchwoman you see
is the wallpaer?

I already /told you/ she's Canadian! And it's the same Windows
logo.sys but for SOME reason the damn startup menu interrupts it
every time!

I thought for sure it was a dancing Frenchwoman. My Startup Menu shows
up BEFORE my Logo.sys. MSDOS.sys is before the menu. IO.sys is before
MSDOS.sys. MBR boot code is before IO.sys. BIOS is before MBR boot code.

Could be System Commander has changed one of the 10 commandments for
you-- as MEB seems to be saying. I can't say for sure!

I got really fed up with wallpapers a long time ago, after
collecting about a zillion of them... made some of my own too...
Way too much free time... Now I don't even have a custom color
scheme - I'm on plum now IIRC... I went to a lot of trouble to
set up an all greyshade scheme and I have it saved,

I can see all that. Now/then I switch Desktop Themes, but I hardly look
much at the Desktop, really.

but for some
reason on my "new" "monitor", (LG 17", last new CRT I could find
around here) it shows up in very faint shades of colors. I MAY
have had the graphics set to High Color not 32bit, like I do
now, but for now I don't see much point in checking if the
greyscale scheme look OK now or not... Do I sound a little
jaded?

I don't know. And I don't really want to talk about monitors. This is
the 3rd one about to go! An Envision EN5400e! I was so happy with it at
first! Now, its buttons won't work-- even the on/off button must be
pressed multiple times to work. And a week/so ago-- it was going on/off
by itself while I was trying to post! I often find it has gone on by
itself overnight! But my colors are fine.

Sigh. Maybe I should use the F8 (IIRC) method for the
startup menu...

No! Just hit the ENTER key or set it quicker in MSDOS.sys!

It's set for 3 or 5 secs, but the damn thing returns for 30
seconds every time I boot Windows...

That's pretty odd. I'm guessing...

(a) "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button"
(b) Uncheck "Enable Startup Menu"
(c) Reboot -- I guess -- to enable MSConfig to complete,
or check inside MSDOS.sys to see whether it's done.
(d) Open MSDOS.sys & manually enter...
BootMenu=0
BootMenuDelay=5

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it be doing it each
boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig & still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

Sigh...

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Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
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