How to fix the bootup screen logo after running setup

In message , Don Phillipson
writes:
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The standard boot screen picture filename is LOGOS.SYS.

(LOGO.SYS, actually - LOGOW.SYS and LOGOS.SYS are the shutdown ones, one
of which - "it is now safe to turn off your computer" - you now only see
for a split-second, if at all, with an ATX power supply.)

It is in fact a BMP picture file, but squeezed narrow (320 x 400
pixels) and unsqueezed when displayed by the boot process. You can
in fact create any picture file you like for this function, so long as it
has the same pixel dimensions, or edit (a copy of) LOGOS.SYS
in a picture editor.

There's more to it than that, though: that will certainly work, but will
give you a static image. The format actually uses a technique called
"palette switching" to give animation, which in the MS file just gives
you the sliding bar below the clouds (am I right in thinking this goes
in different directions for some things, is it 95 and 98 or 98 and
98SE?), but which some people have made quite artistic creations with. I
have a collection of them somewhere, including some Christmas ones.
There are tools - I thought one was called anilogo, but all that seems
to throw up now is details of a worm of that name. Anyway,
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/A.Jaw.Venema/animated.html has some example
files (such as a clock face), and some links to some tools.

Ah, happy days ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"God give me work \ Till my life shall end \ And life \ Till my work is done."
-
gravestone of Winifred Holtby, Yorkshire novelist

In message , thanatoid
writes:
"PCR" wrote in
:

SNIP

I wish it just booted to the desktop without /anything/.

You're asking for too little.

I'm getting old... I'm still a jerk, but getting a lot less
demanding...

(-:

SNIP

I got these in this order when briefly set to show the MS
logo...

(1) COMPAQ logo screen from BIOS.
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(2) MS Startup Menu.
Mine is set for 10 seconds in MSDOS.sys...
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This I knew, and in spite of getting old, 3 or 5 secs is enough
for me.

3 for me too.
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(3) MS logo screen-- Logo.sys in C:\ or the one in IO.sys.
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(4) The Windows desktop & its wallpaper.
R-Clk Desktop, Properties.

Sure... but what is the point of mentioning it here?

I think he put it in just for completeness. (I have a tiny - the size of
a desktop icon - one, of a manic grin, that is usually hidden under
other windows; however, I have the rest of the screen set to one of the
patterns, the one that looks like a loose weave.)
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Way too much free time... Now I don't even have a custom color
scheme - I'm on plum now IIRC... I went to a lot of trouble to
set up an all greyshade scheme and I have it saved, but for some
reason on my "new" "monitor", (LG 17", last new CRT I could find
around here) it shows up in very faint shades of colors. I MAY
have had the graphics set to High Color not 32bit, like I do
now, but for now I don't see much point in checking if the
greyscale scheme look OK now or not... Do I sound a little
jaded?
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(Green?)

Yes, one of the early examples of MS centralising everything. I think,
this having originated that long ago, it actually used one of the .ini
files rather than the dreaded registry, but still, I was cross when I
found that when you "save" a colour scheme, it doesn't save as a file
you can then take to another computer - so I've stopped doing such
things too. (I haven't even customised this XP machine away from the
default screensaver/wallpaper/start menu ...) I suppose one _could_
extract the lines relating to one's preferred colour scheme from
whichever .ini file it is, but life's too short ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"God give me work \ Till my life shall end \ And life \ Till my work is done."
-
gravestone of Winifred Holtby, Yorkshire novelist

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:

SNIP

I never got manuals with mine, but you can DL everything
from HP. When my first 1GB stick died, I got beeps to tell
me what was wrong, but had to use my OTHER computer to
find out what they meant.

Aye, there's the rub, if you haven't got an audiographic
memory. OK, I'll go look again at the site. OK, thanks.

SNIP

That's why I was searching for another Natasha besides the
one that is Logo.sys for you. I'd think it impossible
Logo.sys would return once it's gone.

One would think that, but one would be wrong. It is entirely
possible I am the only person on the planet that this happens
to, but believe me, it DOES happen. We both know that because of
the infinite combination of factors in even a 286 with nothing
BUT Win3 installed, ANYTHING can happen and anything can be
impossible to reproduce or verify or fix.

Everyone has their stories. I don't even like to remember mine,
I try to forget them. I have lost MONTHS on inexplicable
problems which apparently NO ONE else on Earth ever encountered.
(Once I figured it out, I checked with the author, with the guy
whose site I first saw the program on, and various Usenet groups
- nothing.)

Yet I was able to replicate the problem on TWO different
machines via several completely clean installs until "all the
possibles were eliminated, so the impossible HAD to be the case"
and it was - of course, it wasn't /impossible/ but like I said,
the number it did on my machine was such that unless everyone
else it happened to just gave up on computers altogether (I was
pretty damn close), then I /am/ the only person it happened to.
And don't ask me what it was, I don't want to think about it any
more than I just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have
pretty much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing mysteries or
science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan Doyle up there, but
you've put it well.

You should work in a mental hospital, you know... You
could be on permanent call alert and when a patient is
borderline, and they have just HAD it, they call you in,
and after ten minutes with you s/he is WAY over the edge
and ready to be "dealt with" properly.

How much does it pay?

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more than
people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement. But I guess some .ini file could
possibly be responsible for establishing your 30 second BootMenuDelay.


Check the setting I mentioned, & check under the comment
lines within MSDOS.sys.

I did all that and changed all the variables involved probably
about 30 times in the last few days, and I'm done. There are
worse things than the startup logo showing up for 30 seconds.

Something must be set to reenable the Startup Menu with a standard 30
second delay each boot. MSConfig can do that, but I'm not sure it redoes
its work inside MSDOS.sys each boot; I would hope, once done, its done.

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is a critical
problem. But what was that other thing-- the horrible one you won't talk
about?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:

SNIP

I never got manuals with mine, but you can DL everything
from HP. When my first 1GB stick died, I got beeps to tell
me what was wrong, but had to use my OTHER computer to
find out what they meant.

Aye, there's the rub, if you haven't got an audiographic
memory. OK, I'll go look again at the site. OK, thanks.

SNIP

That's why I was searching for another Natasha besides the
one that is Logo.sys for you. I'd think it impossible
Logo.sys would return once it's gone.

One would think that, but one would be wrong. It is entirely
possible I am the only person on the planet that this happens
to, but believe me, it DOES happen. We both know that because of
the infinite combination of factors in even a 286 with nothing
BUT Win3 installed, ANYTHING can happen and anything can be
impossible to reproduce or verify or fix.

Everyone has their stories. I don't even like to remember mine,
I try to forget them. I have lost MONTHS on inexplicable
problems which apparently NO ONE else on Earth ever encountered.
(Once I figured it out, I checked with the author, with the guy
whose site I first saw the program on, and various Usenet groups
- nothing.)

Yet I was able to replicate the problem on TWO different
machines via several completely clean installs until "all the
possibles were eliminated, so the impossible HAD to be the case"
and it was - of course, it wasn't /impossible/ but like I said,
the number it did on my machine was such that unless everyone
else it happened to just gave up on computers altogether (I was
pretty damn close), then I /am/ the only person it happened to.
And don't ask me what it was, I don't want to think about it any
more than I just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have
pretty much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing mysteries or
science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan Doyle up there, but
you've put it well.

You should work in a mental hospital, you know... You
could be on permanent call alert and when a patient is
borderline, and they have just HAD it, they call you in,
and after ten minutes with you s/he is WAY over the edge
and ready to be "dealt with" properly.

How much does it pay?

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more than
people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement. But I guess some .ini file could
possibly be responsible for establishing your 30 second BootMenuDelay.


Check the setting I mentioned, & check under the comment
lines within MSDOS.sys.

I did all that and changed all the variables involved probably
about 30 times in the last few days, and I'm done. There are
worse things than the startup logo showing up for 30 seconds.

Something must be set to reenable the Startup Menu with a standard 30
second delay each boot. MSConfig can do that, but I'm not sure it redoes
its work inside MSDOS.sys each boot; I would hope, once done, its done.

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is a critical
problem. But what was that other thing-- the horrible one you won't talk
about?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in
:


SNIP

then I
/am/ the only person it happened to. And don't ask me what
it was, I don't want to think about it any more than I
just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have pretty
much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing
mysteries or science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan
Doyle up there, but you've put it well.

Thank you. The idea of writing has been popping into my head all
my life, and many people - although most of them, unlike you,
simply barely able to string together any coherent sentences at
all, and therefore impressed by someone who /sort of/ can - have
suggested I should be one, but what is the point of writing
stuff no one will read? Also, I really have nothing to say, in
spite of managing to post as much as I do.

SNIP

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more
than people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

:-)

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

But I guess some .ini
file could possibly be responsible for establishing your 30
second BootMenuDelay.

I thought you got us confused. YOU said it reset to 30 - that's
why I never use sysconfig - it's one of those "make it easy but
crash your machine while doing it" (that's EXACTLY what it did
for me) apps MS is so good at.

Mid-typing the first few words I realized you meant the 30-
second "reappearance" of the startup menu I have lived with
forever. No big deal. I've (sort of) learned to live with worse
things, like my personality.

SNIP

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is
a critical problem. But what was that other thing-- the
horrible one you won't talk about?

It's a long story and after writing that big paragraph about it,
I have been trying /real hard/ to forget about it again. It was
a REAL nightmare. An app. made my system act like it was virus
possessed - but only after a certain date, and that was after
/years/ of using it. The author denied all culpability. And,
like I said, while I was able to replicate it on different
systems, with several full formats and clean installs, /and/
DISABLE the problem by resetting the computer date, apparently
NO ONE else on Earth had it happen.

I can't remember what gave me the idea of changing the clock,
but had I NOT done it, I probably would not be using a computer
now. It was THAT bad.

In the interest of protecting the guilty /and/ the victim, I
won't name the app - sorry.


--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

"PCR" wrote in
:


SNIP

then I
/am/ the only person it happened to. And don't ask me what
it was, I don't want to think about it any more than I
just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have pretty
much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing
mysteries or science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan
Doyle up there, but you've put it well.

Thank you. The idea of writing has been popping into my head all
my life, and many people - although most of them, unlike you,
simply barely able to string together any coherent sentences at
all, and therefore impressed by someone who /sort of/ can - have
suggested I should be one, but what is the point of writing
stuff no one will read? Also, I really have nothing to say, in
spite of managing to post as much as I do.

SNIP

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more
than people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

:-)

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

But I guess some .ini
file could possibly be responsible for establishing your 30
second BootMenuDelay.

I thought you got us confused. YOU said it reset to 30 - that's
why I never use sysconfig - it's one of those "make it easy but
crash your machine while doing it" (that's EXACTLY what it did
for me) apps MS is so good at.

Mid-typing the first few words I realized you meant the 30-
second "reappearance" of the startup menu I have lived with
forever. No big deal. I've (sort of) learned to live with worse
things, like my personality.

SNIP

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is
a critical problem. But what was that other thing-- the
horrible one you won't talk about?

It's a long story and after writing that big paragraph about it,
I have been trying /real hard/ to forget about it again. It was
a REAL nightmare. An app. made my system act like it was virus
possessed - but only after a certain date, and that was after
/years/ of using it. The author denied all culpability. And,
like I said, while I was able to replicate it on different
systems, with several full formats and clean installs, /and/
DISABLE the problem by resetting the computer date, apparently
NO ONE else on Earth had it happen.

I can't remember what gave me the idea of changing the clock,
but had I NOT done it, I probably would not be using a computer
now. It was THAT bad.

In the interest of protecting the guilty /and/ the victim, I
won't name the app - sorry.


--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:


SNIP

then I
/am/ the only person it happened to. And don't ask me what
it was, I don't want to think about it any more than I
just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have pretty
much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing
mysteries or science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan
Doyle up there, but you've put it well.

Thank you. The idea of writing has been popping into my head all
my life, and many people - although most of them, unlike you,
simply barely able to string together any coherent sentences at
all, and therefore impressed by someone who /sort of/ can - have
suggested I should be one, but what is the point of writing
stuff no one will read? Also, I really have nothing to say, in
spite of managing to post as much as I do.

There's undoubtedly a mystery, sci-fi or horror story in you that
someone will read!

SNIP

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more
than people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

:-)

:-).

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

Thanks for the tip. I've always stuck with Notepad to be able to answer
any questions users might have over it. I wanted Registry locations,
interactions with other apps, etc., to be pristine for comparison to
them. But I may be ready for a replacement. No one has complained in a
long time. Maybe they've all gone to something else. I no longer fear so
much a replacement would mess up my own installation.

But I guess some .ini
file could possibly be responsible for establishing your 30
second BootMenuDelay.

I thought you got us confused. YOU said it reset to 30 - that's
why I never use sysconfig - it's one of those "make it easy but
crash your machine while doing it" (that's EXACTLY what it did
for me) apps MS is so good at.

Mid-typing the first few words I realized you meant the 30-
second "reappearance" of the startup menu I have lived with
forever. No big deal. I've (sort of) learned to live with worse
things, like my personality.

Well, right, I suspected MSConfig was resetting the delay to 30 seconds
for you each boot, after you manually change it to 5 seconds. If not
MSConfig, something else must be doing it. An .ini would be powerful
enough. (It can't be you've not unchecked MSDOS.sys from Read-Only;
you'd get a message from Edxor, surely.)

I could test MSConfig for that, myself-- but you don't care anymore,
anyhow. I, personally, wouldn't want it to happen each boot. SO... maybe
your personality IS rotten! :-).

SNIP

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is
a critical problem. But what was that other thing-- the
horrible one you won't talk about?

It's a long story and after writing that big paragraph about it,
I have been trying /real hard/ to forget about it again. It was
a REAL nightmare. An app. made my system act like it was virus
possessed - but only after a certain date, and that was after
/years/ of using it. The author denied all culpability. And,
like I said, while I was able to replicate it on different
systems, with several full formats and clean installs, /and/
DISABLE the problem by resetting the computer date, apparently
NO ONE else on Earth had it happen.

I can't remember what gave me the idea of changing the clock,
but had I NOT done it, I probably would not be using a computer
now. It was THAT bad.

In the interest of protecting the guilty /and/ the victim, I
won't name the app - sorry.

OK. That sounds like a tough one to solve, when a reliable app is
involved-- & you haven't changed its settings or anything to do with it.
Sounds like it was something like the year 2000 issue. Sorry to have
brought up the bad memory & that you had trouble with the author. Glad
you did have that thought about the clock.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:


SNIP

then I
/am/ the only person it happened to. And don't ask me what
it was, I don't want to think about it any more than I
just did. In fact I - with a LOT of work - have pretty
much managed to forget about it except once in a while
something reminds me...

Very intriguing! You seriously could make a living writing
mysteries or science fiction, thanatoid. There's some Conan
Doyle up there, but you've put it well.

Thank you. The idea of writing has been popping into my head all
my life, and many people - although most of them, unlike you,
simply barely able to string together any coherent sentences at
all, and therefore impressed by someone who /sort of/ can - have
suggested I should be one, but what is the point of writing
stuff no one will read? Also, I really have nothing to say, in
spite of managing to post as much as I do.

There's undoubtedly a mystery, sci-fi or horror story in you that
someone will read!

SNIP

On-retainer extra special "consultants" often make more
than people working at the place full-time.

I'll check into it.

:-)

:-).

SNIP

When set through MSConfig, you get 30 seconds. Can it
be doing it each boot? I am unchecked in MSConfig &
still get my menu (for 10 seconds).

MSconfig sucks. That's what Edxor and ini files are for.

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

Thanks for the tip. I've always stuck with Notepad to be able to answer
any questions users might have over it. I wanted Registry locations,
interactions with other apps, etc., to be pristine for comparison to
them. But I may be ready for a replacement. No one has complained in a
long time. Maybe they've all gone to something else. I no longer fear so
much a replacement would mess up my own installation.

But I guess some .ini
file could possibly be responsible for establishing your 30
second BootMenuDelay.

I thought you got us confused. YOU said it reset to 30 - that's
why I never use sysconfig - it's one of those "make it easy but
crash your machine while doing it" (that's EXACTLY what it did
for me) apps MS is so good at.

Mid-typing the first few words I realized you meant the 30-
second "reappearance" of the startup menu I have lived with
forever. No big deal. I've (sort of) learned to live with worse
things, like my personality.

Well, right, I suspected MSConfig was resetting the delay to 30 seconds
for you each boot, after you manually change it to 5 seconds. If not
MSConfig, something else must be doing it. An .ini would be powerful
enough. (It can't be you've not unchecked MSDOS.sys from Read-Only;
you'd get a message from Edxor, surely.)

I could test MSConfig for that, myself-- but you don't care anymore,
anyhow. I, personally, wouldn't want it to happen each boot. SO... maybe
your personality IS rotten! :-).

SNIP

It's OK to quit on this & Natasha. You're right, neither is
a critical problem. But what was that other thing-- the
horrible one you won't talk about?

It's a long story and after writing that big paragraph about it,
I have been trying /real hard/ to forget about it again. It was
a REAL nightmare. An app. made my system act like it was virus
possessed - but only after a certain date, and that was after
/years/ of using it. The author denied all culpability. And,
like I said, while I was able to replicate it on different
systems, with several full formats and clean installs, /and/
DISABLE the problem by resetting the computer date, apparently
NO ONE else on Earth had it happen.

I can't remember what gave me the idea of changing the clock,
but had I NOT done it, I probably would not be using a computer
now. It was THAT bad.

In the interest of protecting the guilty /and/ the victim, I
won't name the app - sorry.

OK. That sounds like a tough one to solve, when a reliable app is
involved-- & you haven't changed its settings or anything to do with it.
Sounds like it was something like the year 2000 issue. Sorry to have
brought up the bad memory & that you had trouble with the author. Glad
you did have that thought about the clock.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
:


SNIP

There's undoubtedly a mystery, sci-fi or horror story in
you that someone will read!

Again, thanks for the encouragements, but I am SO tired of
encouragements... I know I'm a loser and will never do anything.

SNIP

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

Thanks for the tip. I've always stuck with Notepad to be
able to answer any questions users might have over it. I
wanted Registry locations, interactions with other apps,
etc., to be pristine for comparison to them. But I may be
ready for a replacement. No one has complained in a long
time. Maybe they've all gone to something else. I no longer
fear so much a replacement would mess up my own
installation.

Edxor is a no-install IIRC and only stores the last 10 files
worked on in the registry - one key.

But you might like NoteTab Light (also free) more - it has a LOT
more useful features, in fact an UNBELIEVABLE amount of them -
Edxor is really almost programmer-level - half of its options
are beyond my comprehension - I use it mainly because my MAIN
Notepad replacement, Metapad Lite, DOES have a file size limit -
but it is my default since it IGNORES the dreaded
"insert/overwrite" key! So I NEVER lose anything! It's its BEST
feature (has several other unique excellent features too... WHY
doesn't SOMEONE make a Notepad replacement which has all the
features a "regular smart enough not to use MS Notepad but not
smart enough to know QCypher is" user needs? Sigh. I have gone
through SO many, and STILL I have to have three...

Anyway, Edxor handles files of ANY size and is very fast and
small and VERY stable.

SNIP

Well, right, I suspected MSConfig was resetting the delay
to 30 seconds for you each boot, after you manually change
it to 5 seconds. If not MSConfig, something else must be
doing it. An .ini would be powerful enough. (It can't be
you've not unchecked MSDOS.sys from Read-Only; you'd get a
message from Edxor, surely.)

Any text editor will tell you that it can't save a read-only
file... I will never touch msconfig again, providing easy (and
dangerous) access to ini files is all it does, with a simple
interface for those who are afraid of sysedit or whatever...

I could test MSConfig for that, myself-- but you don't care
anymore, anyhow. I, personally, wouldn't want it to happen
each boot. SO... maybe your personality IS rotten! :-).

Of course it is. Smells, too.

SNIP

OK. That sounds like a tough one to solve, when a reliable
app is involved-- & you haven't changed its settings or
anything to do with it. Sounds like it was something like
the year 2000 issue.

No, it happened a few years into the century.

Sorry to have brought up the bad
memory & that you had trouble with the author.

He got VERY defensive. All I said was that I could NOT have been
the ONLY person this ever happened to and that IT HAD to be
something in his program, since it was the /ONLY/ program I
installed after installing 95B (I was still on 95B then) - and a
BUNCH of times to replicate the problem. I was actually
SURPRISED when the same problem occurred - and could be
eliminated by date reset - on the second machine! But there you
are.

But I guess with free programs, no matter how well designed and
well-working, you can't do much if they "misbehave". Actually,
you can't do much with PAID programs either - Windows STILL is
Windows and apparently will be so forever. I wish they would
dump Windows and make Doors or something, the little I know
about Win7 - in spite of general agreement that it "seems batter
than Vista" (last I looked, Win7 is a 20GB DL! The mind
boggles), I KNOW it's going to be the same crap repackaged. But
if it keeps on bringing in the money, why change anything? Just
keep on bloating!

Anyway, no big deal. My life is hell no matter what. The memory
of that event actually makes the recent problems I've had PALE
by comparison.

Glad you did have that thought about the clock.

No kidding.



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"PCR" wrote in
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thanatoid wrote:
"PCR" wrote in
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SNIP

There's undoubtedly a mystery, sci-fi or horror story in
you that someone will read!

Again, thanks for the encouragements, but I am SO tired of
encouragements... I know I'm a loser and will never do anything.

SNIP

I see Edxor is a Notepad repacement.

And a VERY good one, especially since it's free.

Thanks for the tip. I've always stuck with Notepad to be
able to answer any questions users might have over it. I
wanted Registry locations, interactions with other apps,
etc., to be pristine for comparison to them. But I may be
ready for a replacement. No one has complained in a long
time. Maybe they've all gone to something else. I no longer
fear so much a replacement would mess up my own
installation.

Edxor is a no-install IIRC and only stores the last 10 files
worked on in the registry - one key.

But you might like NoteTab Light (also free) more - it has a LOT
more useful features, in fact an UNBELIEVABLE amount of them -
Edxor is really almost programmer-level - half of its options
are beyond my comprehension - I use it mainly because my MAIN
Notepad replacement, Metapad Lite, DOES have a file size limit -
but it is my default since it IGNORES the dreaded
"insert/overwrite" key! So I NEVER lose anything! It's its BEST
feature (has several other unique excellent features too... WHY
doesn't SOMEONE make a Notepad replacement which has all the
features a "regular smart enough not to use MS Notepad but not
smart enough to know QCypher is" user needs? Sigh. I have gone
through SO many, and STILL I have to have three...

Anyway, Edxor handles files of ANY size and is very fast and
small and VERY stable.

SNIP

Well, right, I suspected MSConfig was resetting the delay
to 30 seconds for you each boot, after you manually change
it to 5 seconds. If not MSConfig, something else must be
doing it. An .ini would be powerful enough. (It can't be
you've not unchecked MSDOS.sys from Read-Only; you'd get a
message from Edxor, surely.)

Any text editor will tell you that it can't save a read-only
file... I will never touch msconfig again, providing easy (and
dangerous) access to ini files is all it does, with a simple
interface for those who are afraid of sysedit or whatever...

I could test MSConfig for that, myself-- but you don't care
anymore, anyhow. I, personally, wouldn't want it to happen
each boot. SO... maybe your personality IS rotten! :-).

Of course it is. Smells, too.

SNIP

OK. That sounds like a tough one to solve, when a reliable
app is involved-- & you haven't changed its settings or
anything to do with it. Sounds like it was something like
the year 2000 issue.

No, it happened a few years into the century.

Sorry to have brought up the bad
memory & that you had trouble with the author.

He got VERY defensive. All I said was that I could NOT have been
the ONLY person this ever happened to and that IT HAD to be
something in his program, since it was the /ONLY/ program I
installed after installing 95B (I was still on 95B then) - and a
BUNCH of times to replicate the problem. I was actually
SURPRISED when the same problem occurred - and could be
eliminated by date reset - on the second machine! But there you
are.

But I guess with free programs, no matter how well designed and
well-working, you can't do much if they "misbehave". Actually,
you can't do much with PAID programs either - Windows STILL is
Windows and apparently will be so forever. I wish they would
dump Windows and make Doors or something, the little I know
about Win7 - in spite of general agreement that it "seems batter
than Vista" (last I looked, Win7 is a 20GB DL! The mind
boggles), I KNOW it's going to be the same crap repackaged. But
if it keeps on bringing in the money, why change anything? Just
keep on bloating!

Anyway, no big deal. My life is hell no matter what. The memory
of that event actually makes the recent problems I've had PALE
by comparison.

Glad you did have that thought about the clock.

No kidding.



--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?