diagnostic programs?

I have had my HP with ME for a couple years. It has been
acting up. It will suddenly go back to the HP INVENT
screen for no apparent reason. Also the screen will freeze
occasionally and I have to reboot.

I am thinking maybe the drivers are starting to corrupt?
Is there a diagnostic program I can download that checks
this and other problems that might be causing the problems.

I have had zippo luck with HP eventhough I paid for an
extra 3 years warranty.

-----Original Message-----
I have had my HP with ME for a couple years. It has been
acting up. It will suddenly go back to the HP INVENT
screen for no apparent reason. Also the screen will
freeze
occasionally and I have to reboot.

I am thinking maybe the drivers are starting to corrupt?
Is there a diagnostic program I can download that checks
this and other problems that might be causing the
problems.

I have had zippo luck with HP eventhough I paid for an
extra 3 years warranty.



always update everything including anti virus

Start,Run, type in scandisk hit enter
check automatic run it.
then
try System restore


or/then

get out your rescue floppy disk you will be in MS-DOS
control+ alt+F8 on start-up
Normal hit enter
use #3 no cd rom at startup hit enter
A:
A:C: typeC: hit enter
C:scandisk hit enter
clean it
C:scanreg hit enter
clean it, back it up hit enter
C:
eject disk
use control+alt+delete it will reboot to windows


Google: AVG Lavasoft for a free Anti virus /update
it /run it
ad-aware " " " bot killer
CCLEANER 1.0.3.6.9 " " " garbage cleaner
Spybot search and destroy is Free
SpywareBlaster is free
Big Fix is free
Sygate Firewall personal is free
Micro-Trend Housecall is free

or
.
turn on your modem
My computer,control panel,system,device manager,(yellow ?
are bad ) right click on them, properties, then driver,
reinstall driver.

:) Randy

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:54:18 -0700,

I have had my HP with ME for a couple years. It has been
acting up. It will suddenly go back to the HP INVENT
screen for no apparent reason. Also the screen will
freeze occasionally and I have to reboot.

I am thinking maybe the drivers are starting to corrupt?

Check each layer of abstraction, one at a time, before running
whatever depends on previous layers. IOW..

1) Check hardware, so you know it's safe to run the PC at all
2) Check file system, so you know it's safe to write to HD
3) Exclude viruses etc. so you know the OS is safe to run
4) Only now, run OS and troubleshoot there

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm refers, as does
http://cquirke.mvps.org/pccrisis.htm if HD is at risk.

Is there a diagnostic program I can download that checks
this and other problems

RAM testers; MemTest98+, SIMMtester
HD testers; from HD's web site, and DOS mode Scandisk
Fans and caps; use your trusty eyeballs ;-)
Traditional malware; DOS-based av from:
- www.f-prot.com
- www.sophos.com
- www.nod32.com
Commercial malware; AdAware, Spybot
Startup management; MSConfig, HiJackThis etc.
Other "detail" tools; ShellExView, LSPFix

Untestable hardware has to be swap-tested :-(



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Thanks for the info - I will certainly try all this. How
about Norton System Works? Is it worth the $$$?

Ronda
-----Original Message-----
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:54:18 -0700,

I have had my HP with ME for a couple years. It has been
acting up. It will suddenly go back to the HP INVENT
screen for no apparent reason. Also the screen will
freeze occasionally and I have to reboot.

I am thinking maybe the drivers are starting to corrupt?

Check each layer of abstraction, one at a time, before running
whatever depends on previous layers. IOW..

1) Check hardware, so you know it's safe to run the PC at all
2) Check file system, so you know it's safe to write to HD
3) Exclude viruses etc. so you know the OS is safe to run
4) Only now, run OS and troubleshoot there

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm refers, as does
http://cquirke.mvps.org/pccrisis.htm if HD is at risk.

Is there a diagnostic program I can download that checks
this and other problems

RAM testers; MemTest98+, SIMMtester
HD testers; from HD's web site, and DOS mode Scandisk
Fans and caps; use your trusty eyeballs ;-)
Traditional malware; DOS-based av from:
- www.f-prot.com
- www.sophos.com
- www.nod32.com
Commercial malware; AdAware, Spybot
Startup management; MSConfig, HiJackThis etc.
Other "detail" tools; ShellExView, LSPFix

Untestable hardware has to be swap-tested :-(



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I think most people here will counsel against installing anything by
Symantec-Norton, especially the NSWorks package, when all you probably need
is its anti-virus feature. My subscription to NSW 2004 was about to expire
so I ventured to try Zone Alarm Security Suite (yeah, I know, it's a package
of things) which offers anti-virus and all the other goodies Zone Alarm is
known for. No problems whatever so far, and it lives with ME without
complaining, and with much less running in the background.

Ken Bland

"ronda" wrote in message
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Thanks for the info - I will certainly try all this. How
about Norton System Works? Is it worth the $$$?

Ronda
-----Original Message-----
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:54:18 -0700,

I have had my HP with ME for a couple years. It has been
acting up. It will suddenly go back to the HP INVENT
screen for no apparent reason. Also the screen will
freeze occasionally and I have to reboot.

I am thinking maybe the drivers are starting to corrupt?

Check each layer of abstraction, one at a time, before running
whatever depends on previous layers. IOW..

1) Check hardware, so you know it's safe to run the PC at all
2) Check file system, so you know it's safe to write to HD
3) Exclude viruses etc. so you know the OS is safe to run
4) Only now, run OS and troubleshoot there

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm refers, as does
http://cquirke.mvps.org/pccrisis.htm if HD is at risk.

Is there a diagnostic program I can download that checks
this and other problems

RAM testers; MemTest98+, SIMMtester
HD testers; from HD's web site, and DOS mode Scandisk
Fans and caps; use your trusty eyeballs ;-)
Traditional malware; DOS-based av from:
- www.f-prot.com
- www.sophos.com
- www.nod32.com
Commercial malware; AdAware, Spybot
Startup management; MSConfig, HiJackThis etc.
Other "detail" tools; ShellExView, LSPFix

Untestable hardware has to be swap-tested :-(



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Tip Of The Day:
To disable the 'Tip of the Day' feature...
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:52:14 -0700, "ronda"

Thanks for the info - I will certainly try all this. How
about Norton System Works? Is it worth the $$$?

I haven't thought so, no.

You want diagnostics that:
- are safe to use, i.e. don't require the OS to work
- don't run underfoot and change the way the OS works

Norton Utilities:
- runs within Windows
- duplicates standard Windows functionalities
- runs underfoot and changes the way the OS works

So it's not "diagnostics" as I consider these, and IMO the value it
adds is insufficient to be worth the stability/compatibility impact,
so even if it were free, I'd pass it up.

In fact, that's exactly what I've done. I've twice bought Norton
Utilities to get the DOS diskette Diskedit and Unerase tools, which
I've found invaluable for FATxx (they are useless in NTFS), and I've
never taken the CD out of shrink-wrap.

If System Works also includes Norton av and firewall, then the result
is much the same - I'd rather use free alternatives. Norton av may be
worth paying for if it works as a bootable CD to formally scan and
clean NTFS, but it adds commercial malware (DRM) in installed to HD.



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NAV also doesn't work with ME (except under certain poorly-defined
circumstances) - as hundreds (if not thousands) of posters to these forums
will testify!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote in message
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If System Works also includes Norton av and firewall, then the result
is much the same - I'd rather use free alternatives. Norton av may be
worth paying for if it works as a bootable CD to formally scan and
clean NTFS, but it adds commercial malware (DRM) in installed to HD.



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