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upgrading a hard drive WITHOUT a working CD to reinstall the OS
I just aquired a 60gb drive that I'd like to use to replace the C drive
in a win98 system. I no longer have a working OEM CD, and a generic win98 CD would not have the proper drivers. I'm thinking of keeping the dying 20gb drive as a backup. Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? If I then hook up the new drive as the C drive, would I expect things to work perfectly? I know, the obvious answer is to hook things up with the new drive as a slave, but I have all four IDE channels tied up, so in order to hook it up I have to take something out. I'm not even sure if I still have the old panels for the bays, and I'd lose the functionality of that device. |
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:28:22 -0500, SlickRCBD
wrote: Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? It should be possible. I've copied everything except the swapfile from an active system drive to a backup. There might be a problem copying files such as SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT depending on the copy program you use. XCOPY might do the job. I used a homemade copy program with a very relaxed input file open which is the only way I could access some files. There is also a program called XXCOPY (freeware) which might help here. -- Steven |
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I'd use BootIt NG partition and clone the drive. Get a free demo for the
purpose. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/dow...generation.htm Use the download to make the bootable floppy (or CD) installation disk then boot to that disk. CANCEL the installation, then use Partition Work to view drives, repartition, clone partitions to different drive, etc -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "SlickRCBD" wrote in message . .. I just aquired a 60gb drive that I'd like to use to replace the C drive in a win98 system. I no longer have a working OEM CD, and a generic win98 CD would not have the proper drivers. I'm thinking of keeping the dying 20gb drive as a backup. Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? If I then hook up the new drive as the C drive, would I expect things to work perfectly? I know, the obvious answer is to hook things up with the new drive as a slave, but I have all four IDE channels tied up, so in order to hook it up I have to take something out. I'm not even sure if I still have the old panels for the bays, and I'd lose the functionality of that device. |
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upgrading a hard drive WITHOUT a working CD to reinstall the OS
"Steven Saunderson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:28:22 -0500, SlickRCBD wrote: Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? It should be possible. I've copied everything except the swapfile from an active system drive to a backup. There might be a problem copying files such as SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT depending on the copy program you use. XCOPY might do the job. I used a homemade copy program with a very relaxed input file open which is the only way I could access some files. There is also a program called XXCOPY (freeware) which might help here. -- Steven XXCOPY should do the trick xxcopy /clone would be the switch to use Also, Acronis True Image is an excellent disk cloning utility though it's not free ware, they do have a free trial available BTW: Though it is generally OK to use...(though it may not always work perfectly) xcopy that's already included with windows will generally do the job If must be used from a command promopt window (rather than pure dos) xcopy will also invoke xcopy32 where needed A typical usage would be xcopy /s/c/h/r/e/k |
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philo wrote:
"Steven Saunderson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:28:22 -0500, SlickRCBD wrote: Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? It should be possible. I've copied everything except the swapfile from an active system drive to a backup. There might be a problem copying files such as SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT depending on the copy program you use. XCOPY might do the job. I used a homemade copy program with a very relaxed input file open which is the only way I could access some files. There is also a program called XXCOPY (freeware) which might help here. -- Steven XXCOPY should do the trick xxcopy /clone would be the switch to use Also, Acronis True Image is an excellent disk cloning utility though it's not free ware, they do have a free trial available BTW: Though it is generally OK to use...(though it may not always work perfectly) xcopy that's already included with windows will generally do the job If must be used from a command promopt window (rather than pure dos) xcopy will also invoke xcopy32 where needed A typical usage would be xcopy /s/c/h/r/e/k I remember doing this with MS-DOS, but I wasn't sure if I could do it with Windows 9X. I know you can't do it with XP because of the stupid "activation code" that checks your hardware configuration and disables windows if you change things enough. That's part of the reason why I asked about making an identical partition and using diskcopy. It's just been so long since I've delt with an issue like this in Win9x that I can't remember. If I can use XCOPY, is it even necessary to make a 20gb partition, or could I make a different scheme? |
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SlickRCBD wrote:
I no longer have a working OEM CD, and a generic win98 CD would not have the proper drivers. How exactly do you define a "generic" win98 CD? All win-98 CD's have the same inventory of (hardware) drivers. And it really doesn't matter what drivers a given CD does or doesn't have. The first thing you should do after a fresh install of 98 is to install the motherboard drivers for your hardware, which (unless the motherboard is 6+ years old) you will NOT find on a win98 cd anyways. I know, the obvious answer is to hook things up with the new drive as a slave, If I understand what you're trying to do, you're trying to copy a win-98 installation from a 20 gb driver to a 60 gb drive. Use something like Norton Ghost to do that. You'll end up with an exact clone. Simply hook your 20 gb drive as a master on your primary IDE channel, and your 60 gb drive as a master on the secondary IDE channel. Set your BIOS to boot from a floppy, and then boot from a floppy with Norton Ghost on it. Any old version of Ghost will do the job. Select "Copy - Drive - to - Drive". The default will be to over-write the secondary IDE drive with a copy of the primary IDE drive. When you're done, move the 60 gb drive to the Primary IDE channel as master, and then hook up all your other drives. I assume you will not be using the 20 gb drive any more, so it gets put in a shoe box I guess. If your existing win-98 installation is a few years old, your best option is to re-install win-98 on the 60gb hard drive and then carefully apply all the updates, patches, fixes, and optimizations that are well documented. You'll end up with a more stable system that way. |
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"SlickRCBD" wrote in message . .. philo wrote: "Steven Saunderson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:28:22 -0500, SlickRCBD wrote: Is it possible to temporarily disconnect the ZIP drive I haven't used in over a year and install the new drive as a slave, make a 20gb primary partition, and make the remaining space an extended partition on the new drive. Then use the old MS-DOS command DISKCOPY to copy the C drive to the primary partition on the new drive? It should be possible. I've copied everything except the swapfile from an active system drive to a backup. There might be a problem copying files such as SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT depending on the copy program you use. XCOPY might do the job. I used a homemade copy program with a very relaxed input file open which is the only way I could access some files. There is also a program called XXCOPY (freeware) which might help here. -- Steven XXCOPY should do the trick xxcopy /clone would be the switch to use Also, Acronis True Image is an excellent disk cloning utility though it's not free ware, they do have a free trial available BTW: Though it is generally OK to use...(though it may not always work perfectly) xcopy that's already included with windows will generally do the job If must be used from a command promopt window (rather than pure dos) xcopy will also invoke xcopy32 where needed A typical usage would be xcopy /s/c/h/r/e/k I remember doing this with MS-DOS, but I wasn't sure if I could do it with Windows 9X. I know you can't do it with XP because of the stupid "activation code" that checks your hardware configuration and disables windows if you change things enough. That's part of the reason why I asked about making an identical partition and using diskcopy. It's just been so long since I've delt with an issue like this in Win9x that I can't remember. If I can use XCOPY, is it even necessary to make a 20gb partition, or could I make a different scheme? As far as setting up your partitions...that's up to you. If you do use xcopy, just remember that it must be used from a command box from within Windows not from pure dos as all the switches will not work But xxcopy /clone is generally the preferred method. As for XP, xcopy will not work due to it not being able to copy "system volume information" etc so cloning software such as Acronis is needed. It has nothing to do with licensing |
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