Help, my views got messed up and "folder options" is now restricted

"SlickRCBD" wrote in message ...
I have no idea what has happened here, I think vista somehow messed
something up when I connected to a file share, but even that seems odd
since I've been doing this for 6 months. I'm using Windows 98SE and
have files shares on a LAN to a Vista 64 Home Premium machine.
I can't choose "folder options" in the My Documents folder or any
random subfolder. When I try to do so, I get a message "This operation
has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on this computer.
Please contact your system administrator".
snip

Back up your registry, then start regedit, expand and highlight the following
keys and look in the right window for "NoFolderOptions". If you find it,
delete it. You may have to restart the computer for the change to take effect.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Policies\Explorer

Ben

Sorry I took so long to reply, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays are
long days & nights for me, and I have very little free time. I'm
attending night school to get a better degree since I've been having
trouble getting a permanent job. I was too exhausted after class to
even check for replies.
On Dec 8, 2:55 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/08/2009 08:27 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:


You have or rather VISTA has taken over assigned control to the VISTA
computer, its the MASTER for the rest of the network since you're not
part of a domain anymore AND now there is no XP involved.

I have an MCSA certification for 2000/XP/2003 and I never heard of
this. How did it happen and how do I disable it?

3. What folder/directories have you shared on the respective computers?

I have two hard drives in the 98 computer. The D drive is shared
completely full access and I rely on the Linksys' firewall to block
internet access. The C drive is shared read-only, except My Documents
which is shared full access. I tried turning the sharing off to no
effect.

You have the installed DSClient {Directory Services Client - Active
Directory Client Extension} to think about...

ttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/288358h

http://www.petri.co.il/dsclient_for_win98_nt.htm

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blog...cation-trouble...

http://www.imss.caltech.edu/cms.php?...op=view&id=414
{see this for some graphic images of registry entries to check}

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/197387-46-client
{note the MS group that might be able to better help you}

AND NOTE: sharing MY DOCUMENTS is not recommended because *even in
Win9X* it holds a special OS protection scheme [same for Documents and
Settings in the newer OSs]. You have avoided the recommendations defined
by Microsoft to NOT share these for/in its networking functions.

I don't really think I need DSclient anymore and haven't for the last
2.5 years. However, things were working fine so I left them alone.


Nope, Vista's problem is that trying to access it's shares cause the
98 machine to lock up. Accessing shares from a virtual machine running
XP Pro on the same hardware have no such problem. I had e-mail
correspondance with Microsoft last spring and they were unable to
resolve the problem.
This problem with folder options happens on the real Windows 98
machine.

But you ARE, because the Win98 computer is not in-control of itself at
the moment... and I realized that it WAS the Win98 computer with the
folder issues.

** So what *EXACTLY* have you already tried so I don't spend a few days
writing things already run through. **

FYI: No one in the networking/server field likes to spend days trying
to discover, through lengthy discussions, what issues may be involved in
the diagnostics; so ALWAYS provide detailed network and settings
information with ANY request for help.

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.




You *definitely* want to _stop using the administrator's account_ for
all usage, for a start, then check the recent changes done in VISTA from
MS updates. Microsoft has modified some of the XP, VISTA, WIn7 security
due to constant security issues in mixed networks, and you may have just
received some of those updates.
*IF* you have shared something between the computers in My Documents,
then the network {the machines sharing those areas/documents} will
control those activities.

I don't think Windows 98 has that distinction. I've been using this
setup for many years without a problem. I think you're thinking of
2000/XP/Vista for the different types of user accounts.

Anyways, I can get the folder options dialog box to come up from Start-settings-folder options, but the "remember each folder's view

settings" does NOT work. Worse, in despartion I tried resetting my
folder's views. Now I can't get the My Documents to stay in details
view sorted by type. That's what I want the default view to be. Using
the control panel to get into it, I the option of "like this folder"
for setting defaults is dimmed.

So, what could be restricting my access to folder options, and how do
I fix it? I'm not part of a domain, there should be no group policy. I
don't have a group policy editor. I'm the admin, but don't have a clue
how to fix this problem.

Well, like it or not, you ARE part of a network in which sharing and
security *IS* under control of the settings on the various computers,
the NT based being more likely to affect others within the network.

I managed to fix the views partially by rebooting to safe mode and
using "scanreg /restore", but Folder Options is still FUBAR and I
don't think any changes "stick".

This should have been a clue that the problem was on win98, I don't
think this feature was present on XP, although I don't know if they
brought it back for Vista.
--
MEB

It was, but you indicated "I am the administrator" aspect *after*
indicating no policies installed in Win98, so it needed defined for
clarity. UNLESS policies were used, never mention administrator settings
in a 9X including network WITHOUT directing absolutely.

I use one account that has full access for the win98se computer. It
worked fine when I had a 98SE and an XP computer, and I didn't see any
reason why I should have changed it. I originally set up the VIsta
computer to auto-log in as a normal user, but then I found that
several of the older games I've been playing need to be run as an
admin and I really hated being asked for a password every time I tried
to run them. Damned UAC didn't even let me use the runas alias trick.

Do you want help, or am I going to find reluctance and more indications
like this. One of the simplest potential fixes would be to advise the
COMPLETE removal ALL the prior networking settings from your computers
and start from scratch... just remember that VISTA DID receive some
updates which make 9X connections even more difficult than originally
involved.

I don't see why you're being so snappish, I do need help. I've had two
long days on Tuesday and Wednesday and haven't had time to deal with
this. I came home, cleared the driveway from the snow, and went to
bed.
No they didn't bring it back for VISTA or Win7, it was only available
in Win9X and somewhat in NT3; newer MS OSs run their own
services/servers and use different routines and controls. LONG GONE are
simple networking, replaced with more secured functioning.

I'm confused. I just want to get the win98 computer as you said back
in control of itself. I'm not using domains, just workgroups. I
haven't ever used a domain at home, but three years ago I did connect
to one via a VPN. The Vista computer has never needed domain services
and I was under the impression that the Home Premium OS didn't support
any such things like you are describing. I'm sorry, while I'm somewhat
knowledgable in XP, at least to satisfy the requirements for exams
MCSA. I have no training with Vista beyond what I've learned myself
from using it. I'll say it again, I'm well aware that I don't have the
best security practices here at home, but I'm not very concerned with
intranet security on the LAN, only preventing people from the internet
from getting in. I know relying on the hardware firewall is not the
most secure thing ,but it should be sufficient for my HOME NETWORK.

As I previously stated, I basically set things up the same way I did
with my two preceding Windows XP computers (one is dead, the other I
gave away) and never had such problems. There was nothing to indicate
that Vista would cause a problem that didn't happen with XP.

On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:
Sorry I took so long to reply, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays are
long days & nights for me, and I have very little free time. I'm
attending night school to get a better degree since I've been having
trouble getting a permanent job. I was too exhausted after class to
even check for replies.
On Dec 8, 2:55 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/08/2009 08:27 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:


You have or rather VISTA has taken over assigned control to the VISTA
computer, its the MASTER for the rest of the network since you're not
part of a domain anymore AND now there is no XP involved.

I have an MCSA certification for 2000/XP/2003 and I never heard of
this. How did it happen and how do I disable it?

You may have seen mention of master browser issues... it extends
farther than that with newer MS OSs.


3. What folder/directories have you shared on the respective computers?

I have two hard drives in the 98 computer. The D drive is shared
completely full access and I rely on the Linksys' firewall to block
internet access. The C drive is shared read-only, except My Documents
which is shared full access. I tried turning the sharing off to no
effect.

You have the installed DSClient {Directory Services Client - Active
Directory Client Extension} to think about...

ttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/288358h

http://www.petri.co.il/dsclient_for_win98_nt.htm

http://www.symantec.com/connect/blog...cation-trouble...

http://www.imss.caltech.edu/cms.php?...op=view&id=414
{see this for some graphic images of registry entries to check}

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/197387-46-client
{note the MS group that might be able to better help you}

AND NOTE: sharing MY DOCUMENTS is not recommended because *even in
Win9X* it holds a special OS protection scheme [same for Documents and
Settings in the newer OSs]. You have avoided the recommendations defined
by Microsoft to NOT share these for/in its networking functions.

I don't really think I need DSclient anymore and haven't for the last
2.5 years. However, things were working fine so I left them alone.

That was then, this is now...



Nope, Vista's problem is that trying to access it's shares cause the
98 machine to lock up. Accessing shares from a virtual machine running
XP Pro on the same hardware have no such problem. I had e-mail
correspondance with Microsoft last spring and they were unable to
resolve the problem.
This problem with folder options happens on the real Windows 98
machine.

But you ARE, because the Win98 computer is not in-control of itself at
the moment... and I realized that it WAS the Win98 computer with the
folder issues.

** So what *EXACTLY* have you already tried so I don't spend a few days
writing things already run through. **

FYI: No one in the networking/server field likes to spend days trying
to discover, through lengthy discussions, what issues may be involved in
the diagnostics; so ALWAYS provide detailed network and settings
information with ANY request for help.

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001





You *definitely* want to _stop using the administrator's account_ for
all usage, for a start, then check the recent changes done in VISTA from
MS updates. Microsoft has modified some of the XP, VISTA, WIn7 security
due to constant security issues in mixed networks, and you may have just
received some of those updates.
*IF* you have shared something between the computers in My Documents,
then the network {the machines sharing those areas/documents} will
control those activities.

I don't think Windows 98 has that distinction. I've been using this
setup for many years without a problem. I think you're thinking of
2000/XP/Vista for the different types of user accounts.

Anyways, I can get the folder options dialog box to come up from Start-settings-folder options, but the "remember each folder's view

settings" does NOT work. Worse, in despartion I tried resetting my
folder's views. Now I can't get the My Documents to stay in details
view sorted by type. That's what I want the default view to be. Using
the control panel to get into it, I the option of "like this folder"
for setting defaults is dimmed.

So, what could be restricting my access to folder options, and how do
I fix it? I'm not part of a domain, there should be no group policy. I
don't have a group policy editor. I'm the admin, but don't have a clue
how to fix this problem.

Well, like it or not, you ARE part of a network in which sharing and
security *IS* under control of the settings on the various computers,
the NT based being more likely to affect others within the network.

I managed to fix the views partially by rebooting to safe mode and
using "scanreg /restore", but Folder Options is still FUBAR and I
don't think any changes "stick".

This should have been a clue that the problem was on win98, I don't
think this feature was present on XP, although I don't know if they
brought it back for Vista.
--
MEB

It was, but you indicated "I am the administrator" aspect *after*
indicating no policies installed in Win98, so it needed defined for
clarity. UNLESS policies were used, never mention administrator settings
in a 9X including network WITHOUT directing absolutely.

I use one account that has full access for the win98se computer. It
worked fine when I had a 98SE and an XP computer, and I didn't see any
reason why I should have changed it. I originally set up the VIsta
computer to auto-log in as a normal user, but then I found that
several of the older games I've been playing need to be run as an
admin and I really hated being asked for a password every time I tried
to run them. Damned UAC didn't even let me use the runas alias trick.

Yeah its an issue in all newer OSs. The shear number of hacked
computers have caused "jailing" [a term familiar to Linux users, perhaps
not so much for Windows users] and deeper reliance on *forcing* users
into a more secured mode. Windows users REALLY don't like it very much...

So the general presumption for this discussion is that you ran back
through all the network settings and made sure nothing changed that you
could see...


Do you want help, or am I going to find reluctance and more indications
like this. One of the simplest potential fixes would be to advise the
COMPLETE removal ALL the prior networking settings from your computers
and start from scratch... just remember that VISTA DID receive some
updates which make 9X connections even more difficult than originally
involved.

I don't see why you're being so snappish, I do need help. I've had two
long days on Tuesday and Wednesday and haven't had time to deal with
this. I came home, cleared the driveway from the snow, and went to
bed.

Okay, then when you get the time re-read the suggested and think about
the whole picture.

No they didn't bring it back for VISTA or Win7, it was only available
in Win9X and somewhat in NT3; newer MS OSs run their own
services/servers and use different routines and controls. LONG GONE are
simple networking, replaced with more secured functioning.

I'm confused. I just want to get the win98 computer as you said back
in control of itself. I'm not using domains, just workgroups. I
haven't ever used a domain at home, but three years ago I did connect
to one via a VPN. The Vista computer has never needed domain services
and I was under the impression that the Home Premium OS didn't support
any such things like you are describing. I'm sorry, while I'm somewhat
knowledgable in XP, at least to satisfy the requirements for exams
MCSA. I have no training with Vista beyond what I've learned myself
from using it. I'll say it again, I'm well aware that I don't have the
best security practices here at home, but I'm not very concerned with
intranet security on the LAN, only preventing people from the internet
from getting in. I know relying on the hardware firewall is not the
most secure thing ,but it should be sufficient for my HOME NETWORK.

Just a couple, the rest is left alone:

Vista is as VISTA is... the extent of administrative abilities are
limited in lessor versions [Pro v others, just like XP] but basic and
inherent security and networking are just about the same.

And you, of all people should know that a hardware firewall is
insufficient. The Internet "gets in" everytime you connect to it.


As I previously stated, I basically set things up the same way I did
with my two preceding Windows XP computers (one is dead, the other I
gave away) and never had such problems. There was nothing to indicate
that Vista would cause a problem that didn't happen with XP.

There were always problems with VISTA networking and other OSs, though
you may not have had the extent of issues that one not carrying a
Certification would have had, and which had previously networked to 9X.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

Turning off file and print sharing has no effect. What's the next
thing to try? I really have no clue what might be causing this problem
or how to correct it. You made several mentions that Vista might be to
blame, but not one mention of what procedure to use to correct things.



My gut says it's a missing or corrupted .dll file that is causing the
problem. Just like the time that I couldn't get "find target" to work
when getting properties on a shortcut or "open containing folder" in
find file to work.

On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001


I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

On 12/11/2009 12:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001


I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

Okay, it is the right key, try and add the "NoFolderOptions"
dword:00000000, uhm, make sure to export the key before hand and save
the registry of course. It may make a difference, though I'm not so sure
it will. But it is a start and something you found to try..

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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On 12/11/2009 05:08 AM, MEB wrote:
On 12/11/2009 12:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001


I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

Okay, it is the right key, try and add the "NoFolderOptions"
dword:00000000, uhm, make sure to export the key before hand and save
the registry of course. It may make a difference, though I'm not so sure
it will. But it is a start and something you found to try..


Did this work for you???

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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On 12/11/2009 05:08 AM, MEB wrote:
On 12/11/2009 12:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001


I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

Okay, it is the right key, try and add the "NoFolderOptions"
dword:00000000, uhm, make sure to export the key before hand and save
the registry of course. It may make a difference, though I'm not so sure
it will. But it is a start and something you found to try..


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On Dec 12, 1:43 am, MEB wrote:
On 12/11/2009 05:08 AM, MEB wrote:



On 12/11/2009 12:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001

I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

Okay, it is the right key, try and add the "NoFolderOptions"
dword:00000000, uhm, make sure to export the key before hand and save
the registry of course. It may make a difference, though I'm not so sure
it will. But it is a start and something you found to try..

Did this work for you???

--
MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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This is the second time this has happened, I make a post and there is
no evidence of it the next morning. Wish Comcast hadn't dropped their
newserver, but now I'm stuck with Google Groups.

The registry edit had no visible effect at all. I wonder if that Open
Office remover that FUBARed the "open containing folder" in Find File
and the "find target" when getting properties on a shortcut also
FUBARed folder options and I need to replace a .dll. Any idea
which .dll to replace? It's possible that I hadn't tried to access
folder options in months, this IS my old computer after all.

On Dec 12, 1:43 am, MEB wrote:
On 12/11/2009 05:08 AM, MEB wrote:



On 12/11/2009 12:58 AM, SlickRCBD wrote:
On Dec 10, 10:20 pm, MEB wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 PM, SlickRCBD wrote:

I've tried to search with Google for similar issues, and found a
reference to "NoFolderOptions". I found no such entires in my
registry. I've tried unsharing the directories to no effect. I have
no clue what could cause this, and don't know what else to try. While
typing this I just got the idea to try turning off file sharing
entirely.

And how did that go?

The particular key you looked at/for might look like this in a highly
configured machine [either manually or via some pre-made reg tweak]:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun" hex:95,00,00,00
"ClearRecentDocsOnExit" dword:00000001
"NoFolderOptions" dword:00000001
"NoBandCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoToolbarCustomize" dword:00000001
"NoControlPanel" dword:00000001
"NoPrinters" dword:00000001
"NoPrinterTabs" dword:00000001
"NoDeletePrinter" dword:00000001
"NoAddPrinter" dword:00000001
"NoToolsMenu" dword:00000001
"NoWinKeys" dword:00000001
"NoSetFolders" dword:00000001
"NoActiveDesktopChanges" dword:00000001
"NoChangeStartMenu" dword:00000001
"NoRun" dword:00000001
"NoFind" dword:00000001
"NoSetTaskbar" dword:00000001

I found 3 versions of this in 3 separate keys, but no instance of
"NoFolderOptions". Searching also came up blank.
Since they are all duplicates, I'm only going to post an export of one
of them.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies
\Explorer]
"NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:b5,00,00,00
"CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00
"EditLevel"=dword:00000000
"NoRun"=dword:00000000
"NoClose"=dword:00000000
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000
"NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000
@=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoLogoff"=hex:01,00,00,00
"NoActiveDesktopChanges"=hex:00,00,00,00
"NoDrives"=hex:00,01,00,00
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:00,00,00,00

Okay, it is the right key, try and add the "NoFolderOptions"
dword:00000000, uhm, make sure to export the key before hand and save
the registry of course. It may make a difference, though I'm not so sure
it will. But it is a start and something you found to try..

Did this work for you???

--
MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networkinghttp://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

This is the second time this has happened, I make a post and there is
no evidence of it the next morning. Wish Comcast hadn't dropped their
newserver, but now I'm stuck with Google Groups.

The registry edit had no visible effect at all. I wonder if that Open
Office remover that FUBARed the "open containing folder" in Find File
and the "find target" when getting properties on a shortcut also
FUBARed folder options and I need to replace a .dll. Any idea
which .dll to replace? It's possible that I hadn't tried to access
folder options in months, this IS my old computer after all.