On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:43:41 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

Olin K. McDaniel wrote:
| Hopefully this won't get too longwinded, but as a bit of background, I
| recently upgraded my hardware and wanted to keep all the software as
| before. I installed a new M.B. and CPU to go from a 600MHz Pentium 3
| unit to a 2.6 GHz Celeron unit.

Are you saying that only one machine is involved, & you replaced its MB
& CPU? So-- you now have a single machine that is 2.6 GHz? There is this
article to consider...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...08&Product=w98
Windows protection error in NDIS with a CPU that is faster than 2.1 GHz

HOWEVER... I think thankfully it does not apply to you, because you are
Win98SE (Second Edition). Also, you do not report that same error.
Finally, I believe you may have said the old HDD still will work on the
faster machine.

| Also I cloned over the multiboot
| OS's from drive 1 to another HD, since the older one was showing signs
| of failing.

The machine had only one HDD?

NO! I thought I said it had a total of 3 hard drives, but maybe not.
Regardless, the problem only exists with the boot drive with all 3
OS's on it.

Then, it is called HDD0-- they start
counting them at zero.

Yep, I know about that, in one context. However in the context that's
used by Partition Magic, they do not use that system. They number
them Drive 1, Drive 2, etc. I've simply become more comfortable with
Partition Magic and thus chose their system.


| The program used for cloning was Acronis True Image.
| There were 3 OS's on Drive 1, and they also are now on the newly
| installed HDD.

You cloned HDD0 to a new HDD. Yea, as MEB requested-- describe the two
HDD. What are their size & type?

See my earlier post for answer to this

| The heart of the multiboot system is Powerquest's Boot
| Magic, that has worked wonderfully for years. The 3 OS's are DOS 6.22
| (rarely used anymore), Windows 98SE (most heavily used) and Windows
| 2000 Pro (used somewhat).

I don't know BootMagic. Does it seem to have been copied over to the new
HDD by TrueImage? (I don't know TrueImage, either.) Or do you think you
might need to install it separately? Did you copy the 3 partitions over
to the new HDD in the same order they are on the old drive?

Let's clarify this. Boot Magic is a subset of PowerQuest's Partition
Magic, at least the version I use. Some one else bought them out, and
it's now sold under a different Brand, maybe like Syquest (?), I'm not
sure. Boot Magic is specific for installing onto one
partition/Operating system to allow selection of a current choice of
which OS to use. (I believe it only worked when I put it on Win2000).
However I do have Partition Magic installed in both W98 and W2K.

Further, Partition Magic allows a lot of copying over, etc. but it has
its limitations. When I found this new Acronis TrueImage, I found it
had managed to overcome those limitations. SO, when I copied all 3 of
the hard drives, I did so with Acronis. There are several modes for
doing so, some can cause grief - so I was careful to use the Manual
mode and tell it to copy everything exactly as it was on the original,
and to not "expand" the partitions, even if more space was available.
(Then later I could, and did, go back and use Partition Magic to do
that expansion as desired/needed. All of this manipulation went
without problems, as proven by the success with the other two hard
drives which are fully accessible - IF the OS can boot properly!!!!

| The problem developed subsequent to several days of allowing the new
| M.B. and CPU to install all its drivers, etc.

Describe what you did to accomplish that? How do things look in Device
Manager in Safe Mode-- any red/yellow ?/!'s on any devices?

| Essentially, I cannot boot up (on the NEW Hard Disk 1) into Win98SE in
| Normal mode - I get an error message that says "Error loading KERNEL.
| You must reinstall Windows". BUT - much to my annoyance, it WILL
| boot up fully in SAFE mode. Nothing that I've tried has cleared up
| this anomaly. I've followed the procedure found on MS's web site
| which tells me to "extract Kernel32.dll" from my installation CD and
| copy it to the folder Windows\System\, all to no avail, after multiple
| efforts.

Yea. I see that article...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/146419
Error Loading Kernel. You Must Reinstall Windows

You did it right! Too bad it didn't work!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch
Google finds about 138,000 for Error Loading Kernel

| In addition, I've copied it over from the presumed "failing"
| hard drive, again with no success. I'm about ready to throw in the
| towel - hopefully, someone can give me an out. Before someone asks,
| there is NO problem booting up in Win2000 on this drive.
|
| Finally, as a further frustating fact, I can still do the multiboot if
| I swap out the new HD 1 to the old failing one. But I don't trust it
| lasting much longer.

What are you saying-- just that you get a menu from BootMagic? Or can
you be saying Win98 will actually boot from the old drive? How did the
new drive boot to Win98SE Safe Mode-- through a BootMagic screen? How
did it boot to Win2K?

Let's elaborate a little bit here, if you insist. With the New drive
in #1 (or call it #0 if you wish), I get the correct menu after going
thru the POST steps. This menu is that provided by Boot Magic. It
gives me 3 choices from which to Boot. DOS, W98 and W2000. I have
set it up for W98 as the Default, but that's simple to change. Also I
can Disable Boot Magic very simply, if desired. (Remember, all this
is on drive #1 and presumably exists on both the Old and the New
drives, but it only works FULLY on the New.) If I then choose W98 to
boot, that's when it gives the Error message, and insists on
restarting in Safe mode.

Again, to restate, the Old drive does not give me this menu choice,
but I think that's readily fixable. I've chosen not to screw with it
yet, rather just use the BM rescue disk to make my choice, and then I
can boot successfully on either of the OS's. SO - my Main effort is
in trying to fix the New drive in the #1 spot. Any other effort ahead
of that is a waste of time and probably counterproductive.


| I'm admittedly out of ideas - and if it should be a problem with the
| MBR, then I don't know how to repair it.

I don't know TrueImage or BootMagic. What does the process of copying a
partition to a new hard drive normally entail? Are there extra steps to
do in its instructions in order to make the drive bootable? Did you do
them? Looks like you do boot to Win98SE Safe Mode & fully to Win2K. SO--
something must be right. As far as BootMagic, what is it like to install
it? Maybe try that on the new drive, just in case TrueImage didn't get
all of it.

Hopefully the above 2 answers covers most of these questions also.
Although I've never successfully used GHOST, my understanding is that
True Image does much the same thing, and even more simply and with
less complications. I assure you that careful reading of its
instructions at each step of the way SHOULD allow most people to do it
without messing up. The fact that I successfully cloned over the
other 2 hard drives with it, should attest to the fact that I followed
their instructions correctly.

| Sorry it got this long - and it may not have all the useful info
| someone might think would lead to a clue. If so, please tell me what
| to check.

Keep at it. I think you are close, if you get to Safe Mode. But how are
you getting there?

Should be adequately answered above.


| Thanks, Olin McDaniel

You are welcome.

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Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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