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Old March 16th 10, 01:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_14_]
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Default ping Mike and Noel

That's simply crazy, dumping a decent ISP because of the router/modem
they loan you for free. It's not as if they are forcing you to use their
router.


My position here is that other ISPs give you the router for more-or-less the
same deal and Be come over as cheaper without making clear that you *don't*
get a free router. Perhaps ISPs are increasingly loaning the router - so iow
they appear to be putting prices up by stealth. So I'll have to shop around
more than before.

I also dislike the fact the BeValue service I'm on has come down almost half
price - with a 40G limit (which I've never approached even in my heaviest
internet use). I don't like having to continue paying almost twice as much.
Okay that is because it is a contract. Likewise I'll be going elsewhere when
the contract ends. Unless they refund the difference.

And I'm sick to death of the connection being dropped if not using it for an
hour or two. It did seem to be the Be DNS servers. When I switched to
OpenDNS it was ok for a while. But now it is just like before. I have to
cycle the router off and on again. And they are not lending it to me, they
are renting it to me, aren't they. I'm paying for the insert expletive
here. You're paying for yours. Maybe it is less of a concern for you in the
smoke with that vastly greater speed. I don't suppose it would bother me
quite so much.

Meanwhile I really want to ditch BT altogether, i.e. stop paying for the
landline, though options are limited out here. I don't care too much for the
3G alternatives. Virgin is far from satisfactory of course. We'll see. I
don't want to stay in this country any longer anyway.

Shane


Mike M wrote:
Shane,

That's simply crazy, dumping a decent ISP because of the router/modem
they loan you for free. It's not as if they are forcing you to use their
router. What is important though if you intend soaking your Be connection
for
all it is worth is getting a router using a Broadcom chipset rather than
say
Conexant as the Broadcom better matches the DSLAMs used by Be for
their Be/O2 network. I'm currently using a Netgear DGN2000 and prior to
that an eBay sourced DG834PN which subsequently died. I've also an older
DG834Gv2 as my reserve. The Netgear's are good because there is
alternative
firmware available including DGTeam which makes them pretty tweakable.

Be's SpeedTouch 585v7 (I think) is still in its box ready to be
returned whenever I decide to move on to another ISP. May I strongly
recommend that when you return your router you get a free certificate of
posting
from the Post Office as there are too many stories of Be routers going
missing
when returned. The return address is also Freepost.

Mike


Shane wrote:

Noel,

I just started reading the latest of those articles I linked to,
again, and realised it involves the "Belkin N1 Vision Wireless"! I
expect to be ditching Be this year when the contract is up, in part
due to the awful routers they supply (and that they don't even give
them to you, and if you lose or bin them - I suppose the former can
happen, while the latter ought to - they claim they'll charge you
£100 for the POS). I would like to resume using my Dynamode - which
I've not yet heard of being compromised (and I like the
configurability). The Texas Instruments chip is incompatible with Be.
Or rather, their wotcha-ma-thing-ummy-doo-dah. My memory is not what
it was! iirc.



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