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Old February 26th 08, 02:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
DJW
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Default Can I restore Windows 98 from an USB external CR-rom drive?

On Feb 25, 2:00 am, Bill Watt wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:25:52 -0800 (PST), DJW
wrote:





On Feb 24, 1:58 am, Bill Watt wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:36:03 -0800 (PST), DJW
wrote:


John and everyone thanks for all the help now all i am doing is
waiting for the CD-Rom I got on ebay yesterday to get here. If I have
any more software problems I will repost to this thread.


DJW,


As a last resort and before you format the drive try this.


Boot with the Wn98 Startup floppy and at the A:\ prompt enter:
C:
At the C:\ prompt enter DIR. If you can get to the C: prompt but
the DIR command doesn't display any files or folders then the Master
Boot Record (MBR) may be corrupt. If that's the case then with the
floppy still in enter:
FDISK /MBR. enter


If you get no errors then it should have worked. The drive light
just blinks once, that's all.


If it says it can't find the file then change to the A:\ prompt and
try it again.


Fdisk /mbr re-writes the Master Boot Record.


Reboot.


Regards,


Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


Bill I tried C:\DIR and got a list of files 15 file(s) and 0 dir(s)


Then I did C:\FDISK/MBR and got the master boot code has not been
updated so tried A:\FDISK/MBR and got the same message as above


Then I tried to boot without the floppy in and got Pri Master:
00X5A0A0 Hitachi_DK239A-65 Ultra DMA Mode-2, S.M.A.R.T. Command Failed
Sec Master Drive ATAPI Incompatible


DJW,

Here's a thread on your problem. See the suggestions to repair it.
Be sure to go to the end past the ads.http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=52428
Such as:
How old is the CMOS battery ?
Using FDISK from a Startup floppy, is the drive recognized? Set the
drive to AUTO. Set BIOS to default settings.

There is a utility that will backup the MBR first on your floppy
(make sure it's not write protected) then zero track 0 and then
install a standard MBR. It's called Mbrwork. You can get ver 1.03 athttp://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-free-software.htm
Unzip it and put it on a floppy then enter a:\mbrwork. The backup
will be put on the floppy.

It saved the day for me when I accidentally let Norton AV "repair
the MBR". It rendered the drive useless.

Anyway, see the above thread for something that may help with your
particular problem.

Good luck,

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/- Hide quoted text -

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OK I got a new CD-ROM drive, a TEAC md CD-22E-N83 and put it in the
laptop I can hear it spin at startup with the windows 98 boot floppy
in A drive which is more than the old DVD did. However it still will
not bring up the Windows 98 install CD I have in the drive at startup.
I went out and got the driver for the drive online and put it on the
boot floppy its name is TeacCD-224EDriver.exe and also put the file
Teac_cdi.sys that came within the driver zipped file. The read-me that
came with the driver is below:

To install the TEAC CD-ROM Driver, add the following lines. Be sure to
replace path with the correct location of the TEAC_CDI.SYS and
MSCDEX.EXE.

In CONFIG.SYS,
DEVICE=path\TEAC_CDI.SYS /D:MSCD001

In AUTOEXEC.BAT,
path\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

I think I did the change with notepad correctly (do caps or small case
matter?) in the CONFIG.SYS file the thing mensioned above about the
path I was not sure about but the line as I saw other similar file
entries. I put it in as:
device=TEAC_CDI.SYS /D:MSCD001

Please see below what is now my floppy's config.sys file:

[menu]
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmemff
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001
device=TEAC_CDI.SYS /D:MSCD001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmemff

[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmemff

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048
lastdrive=z

But when it came to the AUTOEXEC.BAT file I did not find a clear thing
to do. However I did find what they asked to add in the line.... LH %ramd
%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
already there so I did not make any change to that file (was that a
mistake?).
Below is the complete autoexec.bat file:

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P
15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D
3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.
echo.

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF "%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your computer will now restart and the startup menu will appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
restart.com
GOTO QUIT

:QUIT
echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER.
echo.
rem clean up environment variables
set CDROM=
set LglDrv=



One thing I read somewhere online was about the CD not being found
when the MSCDEX.EXE file is loaded. I looked on the CD and found no
file by that name so I went to the web and got the win 98 file for it
and put it also on the boot floppy.

The CD drive is still not coming up I get the message:

Device driver not found: "MSCD001"

No valid CDROM device drivers selected.

Can anybody give me any help as to what I still need to do to get the
windows install CD working in this laptop.