have problem since update of kb891711. win 98se, ie 6.0, high speed cable
modem, dell desktop xpst-450, norton av 2002. i have found the sequence of
events i performed to cause blue screen 06 error:
open windows media player 7.1; play songs from media guide; close media
player. open ie; error screen occurs. or open ie; open media player; close
ie; re-open ie; error occurs.
if i do NOT open media player, all seems ok. open & close ie as needed; no
errors. shut down normal.
when error screen comes on, i press any key once to return to windows, & it
does. then i alt-ctl-del & end task kb981711. i can go on ie with no
problem. re-start is best fix. i just don't use the media player.
does this info help?
i hope microsoft sends auto update to fix. any ideas when?
thank you, len kiesling
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Just read the Win98.Gen_Discussion group, or the WindowsME.General
group, and you'll see several examples of KB891711 causing BSODs.
Believe me, there *is* a problem, and MS *is* working on a solution. The
biggest problem we have, now, is most people who are having trouble with
KB891711 don't seem to be willing to perform some rather simple tests
and return the results.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
...
Well, we live in an era of 'instant PC Experts'
the typical'my brother in law-sez, ......., and the secretary at
work.....
roof is needed not rumors.
I've had the update for 4 days and nothing has raised an ugly head
yet.
"Dan" wrote in message
...
It is just what people are saying. I don't have any proof.
"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
...
: Any particular boards?
:
: Is this well founded and some one has absolute proof, or just some
one
: saying it must be ...?
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Read the discussion boards and you will see that it is causing
havoc
with
: some user's machines and associated software and/or hardware.
For
some
of
: the users baddies are definately involved but definately not
with all
the
: users.
:
: "SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whata's the downside of this update?
: :
: : "Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I
want to
: install
: : it on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install
these
updates
: in
: : general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But
on
the
: other
: : hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of
KB891711, the
: : inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this
patch
is
: far
: : greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine.
Keep in
mind
: that
: : there have been several updates this year considered
"important" for
: Windows
: : 98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune
pointed
out,
: the
: : difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not
so
: significant
: : in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine
probably *is*
: : vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100%
secure
all
: the
: : time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about
not
having
: this
: : one patch installed.
: :
: : And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running
WITHOUT
: : anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I
decided I
would
: run
: : a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what -
nothing
found
: other
: : than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important
thing is
being
: : aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the
Internet.
: :
: : Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was,
but what
I
: do
: : know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in
this
manner,
: : without informing the users of the potential caveats, and
apparently
: without
: : testing in dial-up systems, etc.
: :
: :
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update
that
has
: as
: : of now
: : not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need
this
critical
: : update
: : because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a
way to
: : compromise
: : all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch
and have
not
: : been
: : updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers
will be
a
: : maximum of
: : 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is
connected
to
: the
: : Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE"
running
because
: I
: : am
: : sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better
fix but
: this
: is
: : a
: : temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe
while
: on-line.
: : If
: : programs are not responding then discover why. People you
need
this
: : CRITICAL
: : PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run
with the
: patch
: : because
: : of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove
Ethernet
cable,
: USB
: : cable
: : or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if
you do
not
: do
: : this
: : and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just
asking for
: your
: : system
: : to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends
although
I
: know
: a
: : lot
: : about security on computers and weak access points and
could
: probably
: do
: : it
: : without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is
with
keeping
: the
: : U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers
to try
and
: get
: : one
: : small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby,
the
: : terriorists and
: : finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others
can
help
: you
: : with
: : your computer problems. Have a nice day!
: :
: : "98 Guy" wrote in message
: ...
: : :
: : : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: : :
: : :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: : :
: : : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the
past
week)
: : : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you
almost
: : : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in
the
: background.
: : : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time
any
such
: update
: : : or security patch has been configured to operate
(instead of
: simply
: : : replacing an existing file).
: : :
: : : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE)
is
: critical
: : : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are
simply
: deactivating
: : : it (via msconfig).
: : :
: : : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and
: KB891711.EXE?
: : :
: : : Is there anything special about it (like running it in
safe
mode
: to
: : : properly install it) ?
: : :
: : : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: : :
: : : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
: :
: :
: :
:
:
: