Heh. I mention it in the post Mart replied to me to! This is quite funny -
unless you're winding me up, though that would be funny too!

Shane

Joan Archer wrote:
Have any of you tried Online Armor, that has a free version, well it
did when I bought my licence a couple of years ago, mine runs out in
7 days but as I've been using the built in firewall since last year
I'm not going to be renewing.

It is a pretty decent firewall and when it asks for permission to run
something at least it tells you in English just what it is and not
something cryptic that only a tech could understand. g


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Mart,

I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very
long absence! - albeit not on the main system, and it was fine up
until a few months ago when they made it nagware. Now at every boot
you get an ad for the full version (though I haven't tried it in a
couple of months but I seriously doubt they've relented meantime).
Whether or not a once-excellent product became flaky in the extreme
long ago, the nagging alone is enough to stop me - or anyone else I
know of - running it today. I guess they conclude that the model of
inherent advertising by providing a well-respected free version
either doesn't work or, I suspect more likely, the current owners
simply don't hold with giving anything whatsoever away. Now they try
to have the best of both worlds by making it a trial version thinly
disguised as freeware - which I suppose is the definition of
nagware, really! Shane


Mart wrote:
Cheers Shane, I included the link as several of my 'older' links
have either now removed the download or the link has become dead. I
only added it in case someone looks at these posts in a future life
and hopefully at least one of the links might still work. Thanks
for the update on Vista and 7 - saves me messing about. I gave up
ZA years ago due to it "screwing the kit'n'kaboodle". It became a
PITA. Mart



"Shane" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Besides the pedantic point that I gave a link to Kerio 2.1.5 in the
post Mike was replying to (not that there is any harm in more than
one link! - but I do also mention that according to Secunia there
are a couple of vulnerabilities in it - hardly surprising really
and the point of which is that 2.1.5 is these days an 'on your own
head be it' choice - so definately not a pedantic one), no, it
doesn't work in Vista or Win7. It simply won't install. But if you
have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best
modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a
problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without
screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane

Mart wrote:
Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 is still (as I write) available at
:- http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip

Always a good one and works fine on XP - if you feel you need it
(Never tried it beyond XP but don't see why it shouldn't work in
Vista or 7)
Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
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Shane,

To be honest I actually meant to say Kerio but the name went
right out of head and I came up with Comodo instead.

I know we differ here but personally I wouldn't bother with a
firewall when running Win Me behind a NAT/SPI enabled router.
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

I checked the requirements for Comodo earlier, Mike, and it only
mentioned NT versions. Personally I'd use Kerio 2.1.5 still
were I still running Me
http://www.oldversion.com/download_K...all_2.1.5.html.

According to Secunia there are one or two vulnerabilities in
2.1.5 that, of course, are never going to be addressed now, but
my own feeling is if you're online with a 9x version today, you
need to learn to type with fingers crossed anyway.

I supposed AAH meant 'complicated' rather than 'completed' and
wonder what *that* requirement is specifically. Of course one
could still get versions of ZoneAlarm that support 9x, too, e.g.
on oldversion.com, though I suspect they are more vulnerable
than Kerio 2.1.5, today. I seem to recall you had the choice -
not that I ever used it - to install ZA in a 'novice'
configuration. Otherwise both require you to allow or deny access,
and both in
my experience had glitches that required 'expert'-ise to fix,
though Kerio, if the config files had been backed up, was
easiest to debuggerize. And I still have my batch that backed
the config up every boot. I'll respond to your other replies on the
morrow,
Mike. I've been
rearranging partitions (to put W7 back - purely out of
boredom!). I have just finished resizing and now have 14 partitions
on 2
disks and as Rosie has just announced her return, I'm going to
bed! Shane