If you think that Symantec know what they are talking about they might not
be the company that has done most to destroy users' systems in the last
ten years than any others. As for system restore Symantec are totally
clueless otherwise they would have fixed both NAV and LiveUpdate so that
they don't crap out when system restore is used.

So yes, stupid and clueless are a pretty good description of your
contribution to this thread. Sorry but if the truth hurts maybe it will
prompt you to think about your posts in future - something you clearly
haven't done to date.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



oops!! wrote:

Asinine...

One in sooooo.... many:

...
The following instructions pertain to all current and recent Symantec
antivirus products, including the Symantec AntiVirus and Norton
AntiVirus product lines.

1. Disable System Restore (Windows Me/XP).
2. Update the virus definitions.
3. Restart the computer in Safe mode or VGA mode.
4. Run a full system scan and delete all the files detected as
W32.Beagle.BA@mm.
5. Delete the value that was added to the registry.

For specific details on each of these steps, read the following
instructions.
...

Stupid...

Jim Byrd..??

Defending Your Machine
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
...
Disable Restore if you're on XP or ME (directions he
http://vil.nai.com/vil/SystemHelpDoc...SysRestore.htm), then
boot to Safe mode or a Clean Boot as above (HowTo he
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01052409420406)
Read tscreadme.txt carefully, then do a complete scan of your system
and clean or delete anything it finds...

Hmm...

Shall I go on?

No, no need.

Cheers,

Zee





"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Common on practice is not BEST practice. This is a perfect example
of very bad advice and something not countenanced by anyone who has
given the subject any thought whatsoever.

I'm sorry but it is totally asinine to disable system restore until
the system is back up and running OK and to advise otherwise is
simply bad if not also stupid however well intentioned.

As for the LSPfix, I know perfectly well how to obtain this thanks
(it was me that mentioned it) but spare a thought to the individual
who knows nothing about winsock problems, LSPfix or where to get it
and follows your advice. They disable system restore, run their
marvellous cleaning tool and end up with a system unable to connect
to the net. They're now helpless and not even able to use their PC
to ask for help. If however they had not disabled system restore
all they need to do is to roll their system back, connect to the net
and ask for advice.

So to conclude, disabling system restore prior to cleaning is
nothing more than VERY BAD ADVICE.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



oops!! wrote:

Mike,

I am sorry but common practise nowadays is turning off system
restore before scanning and cleanup.

If you leave system restore on, many of the latest nasty intruders
will immediately restore upon the first reboot.

This applies to WinME as well as to WinXP.

Regarding winsock corruption, it's also generally suggested to
download the fixing tool before cleaning.

I always suggest this winsock fix by Option^Explicit (compatible
with Win95, 98, Me, 2000 and XP):

http://downloads.subratam.org/WinsockFix.zip

Anyway, this has been working for me this way, and you will see it
recommended in most, if not all, forums on the subject.