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Old August 29th 04, 07:56 PM
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| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Components\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}
| Name: Compatibility Flags
| Data: 0x00000400 (1024)

Whaaat? Isn't it...?...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}]
"Compatibility Flags"=dword:00000400

Anyway, my Kill Bit doesn't work anymore, either. Well...

(a) I now install TShoot.inf.
(HELP Troubleshooters still won't work.)
(b) I turn off my kill bit, not yours.
(HELP Troubleshooters do work!)
(c) I turn off the Kill Bit.
(HELP Troubleshooters no longer work.)

After step (a) is done once, it won't have to be done again, looks like,
till the next IE cumulative. I did not have to reboot, but I did do the
Kill Bits with HELP closed. Here is how I turn the Kill Bit on/off, not
with GG's script...

Two separate Windows Update criticals took your Troubleshooters away,
for security reasons.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q188867
Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problems. This article contains a
link to what it says is the equivalent of the Windows Help
Troubleshooters...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/tshoot
That's it. But, here is how to get them back when offline...

First, "START, Find, F&F, Tshoot.inf"; R-Clk it & select "Install". If
you still don't have the Troubleshooters...

(1) "START, Run, RegEdit"
(2) Navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}

Compatibility Flags 0x00000400 (1024) Dword value 400

by
(a) Clicking plus signs, beginning with "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
(b) & ending with "ActiveX Compatibility".
(c) Finally, click "{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}" itself in
the left pane.
(d) Now, you see "Compatibility Flags 0x00000400 (1024)" in the right
pane.
(e) "Registry menu, Export Registry file".

This will create a ".reg" file of the entire Key that is open...
all the items in the right pane & all sub-keys in the left pane (if
there is a plus sign). Give it a name & location of your choosing, even
to the Desktop or My Documents. Then, to undo the following, you will be
able to simply click that file, to Merge it's contents back into the
Registry.

Actually-- name that one "NoTrouble.reg". It will look like...

....Start.....
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}]
"Compatibility Flags"=dword:00000400

....End.......

(f) Close RegEdit. You now have an "undo" .reg, named "NoTrouble.reg".
(g) Make a copy of it called "Trouble.reg".
(h) Open "Trouble.reg" in Notepad. Change the "dword" to look as
follows... all zeros...

....Start..of "Trouble.reg"...
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}]
"Compatibility Flags"=dword:00000000

....End.......

CAREFUL: That "HKEY" is one line, with TWO spaces only. One between
"Internet Explorer", & the other between "ActiveX Compatibility". Make
sure it looks that way in Notepad, before you click to Save. Also, you
must have an empty line at bottom.

Now, "Trouble.reg" gives you the Troubleshooters. "NoTrouble.reg" will
give you security by taking them away. Remember to undo it, after you
are done looking at the Troubleshooters.


(2) By default, when a ".reg" is clicked, it will Merge into the
Registry. To alter the default behavior: "START, Settings, Folder
Options, File Types tab". Scroll to & click "Registration Entries",
click the "Edit" button, select "edit" in the window & click the "Set
Default" button. Now, when you click a ".reg" file, it will open in
Notepad for examination. To merge it into the Registry, R-Clk it &
select "Merge".


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Brian A." GoneFishn@aFarAwayLake wrote in message
...
This is not doubting you but I have reason to believe you do not have
the 2nd update mentioned installed. The "Windows help wizards" should
not work thru any of Windows help. GG's workaround app should be the
only way unless you have removed the kill bit from the registry
yourself. If you have the 2nd update installed you will have the key
mentioned below with the kill bit (name/data "value") present in the
registry.
When GG's app is installed it is what is to be used for the tshoot
wizards, not Windows Help. I thought he explained it in his text file
included although now that I check he only mentions clicking the icon to
run the wizards which may confuse some. Windows help should not be used,
GG's app is what should be used to run the wizards when installed.

Ok now, after a good nights slumber I have:

Booted another 98SE machine which is fully updated and did not have
GG's TShoot installed.
Tried the Windows tshoot wizards which failed.
Checked the registry for the ActiveX component kill bit which was
present at:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Components\{4B106874-DD36-11D0-8B44-00A024DD9EFF}
Name: Compatibility Flags
Data: 0x00000400 (1024)

Tried to run the Windows help tshoot wizards which failed.
Removed kill bit entry in registry and regain tshoot wizards, merged
entry back into registry and tshoot wizards fail.
Install GG's tshoot.exe workaround.
Run GG's app and Windows wizards fail.
Run Windows help and wizards fail.
Right click tshoot.inf and install, both GG's app and Windows wizards
fail.
Reboot.
GG's app now works, wizards successful and Windows help wizards fail.
With GG's app running, check registry entry for kill bit which is
absent.
Shutdown GG's app, check registry and kill bit entry is present.

All works as should.

Reboot 98SE machine mentioned in last post.
Still no Wizards with either GG's app or Windows help.
Run tshoot.inf install, check wizards which fail.
Reboot, all is working as should. GG's app controls the registry entry
to remove the kill bit when run and replace when closed.
Running " Windows help wizards" (not GG's) still fail.

I never thought a reboot was required and don't believe I had to do it
on the first 98SE when I originally installed GG's app, yet it appears
this is the case now. Stymies me a little but that's how it all went
down. It now makes me wonder if one has to go thru the re-install of
tshoot.inf, then install GG's app and reboot at some point to gain
functionality due to a later update? For now I've done what I'm going
too as the wizards/GG's app work (or don't) as they should/shouldn't.

BTW, both 98SE machines were updated using the Security update CD and
finished at the MS Update site. Can't see why but perhaps this method
has something to do with it. I do have one more 98SE machine available
to test that does not have GG's app and is fully updated ONLY from the
MS Update site.

Perhaps Glen has some insight on this.


--
Brian A.

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