Do you know of the MS site that I can download the updates
Outside Of windows updates?

KB,

Please read my original post again. I explained exactly how and where to
obtain the updates, that is from the Windows Update Catalogue. This is
NOT the Windows Update site and unlike the Windows Update site contains no
detection mechanism but instead allows you to pick and choose which
updates you wish to download and subsequently install.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



KB wrote:

They're broken. You are correct.

No, I haven't installed ME over itself. The patches show
as broken after installing Borderbund.

Do you know of the MS site that I can download the updates
Outside Of windows updates? These patches don't show as
being available for download there. I guess I could fish
through the registry and remove the keys you elude to (if
you tell me which they are) but I'd rather have the site
so that I can save it and avoid touching the registry.

Thanks for your help, Mike. It's much appreciated.