On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:14:03 GMT, Donald G. Davis
wrote:

- writes:

What is the last version of Thunderbird that can be used in Win98se?

I know nothing about Thunderbird, but if you have KernelEx installed
in your Win98SE, you can use Firefox up to version 3.6.28, which will
still operate with many basic Web sites (but not with recent YouTube
videos, or with HTML5; e.g., forget about internet banking or other
transactions involving secure communications). You'd be better off having
a dual-boot system with Windows 98SE and Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2,
in which most secure Web sites will still work.


Thats exactly what I have installed. Kernel-Ex and FF 3.6.28

All the secure stuff used to be only for online banking and sites where
you have to enter a credit card (online shopping).

But almost all sites are secure now (https). We can thank ****ing Google
for that. From what i heard, they made it law, that all sites who do not
switch to the HTTPS, will no longer be allowed to be in Google's
searches. What I'd like to know is who the hell made Google OWNER of the
internet. So what we now have is a monopoly. The internet is owned by
Google and Facebook. And like all monopolies, once they assume
ownership, it all goes to hell, and that is preciesly what has happened.

I actually stopped using Google when I could still use the web, simply
because I got tired of all their bull****.

My computer is 19 years old, I doubt it would run XP. I do have another
computer that does have XP on it, but I have never been able to get a
usable connection on the modem. It connects, but I get that "spiral of
death". After 5 min, it's still connected but wont transfer data, and it
disconnects after 15 min or less.


If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.

If you live in an area with a Sprint signal, and you have income
less than 200% of federal poverty guidelines, you might want to look up
PCsforPeople.com. This involves a one-time purchase of a tiny wireless
hotspot device, after which you can maintain wireless internet service for
$120 per year. Mine is not as fast as Centurylink DSL service (Sprint
gives only one-bar signal in my area), but it's much faster than dialup,
and has the big advantage that the device can be taken along when I
travel, and will work wherever the Sprint signal is available.

I dont know if we have Sprint around here. I know we have Verison. My
Tracfone uses Verison. I am on SSI (retired) and get little each month,
so I probably do qualify as far as income. That pcsforpeople.com sounds
promising. $120 per year is a great price. Much less than what i pay for
dialup now. But I do get a very poor cell signal here. To make calls, I
usually have to walk up my hill. But I am aware of cellphone signal
boosters, and know i get a better signal on my roof, so I'd get one of
them if I could get this service.

I will have to wait till I go to someone's home to look at their web
though. I just tried to load it, and it's https, so it aint gonna load.

And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.

If you qualify under the low-income requirement and live in an area
with Sprint signals, you may want to look into Qlink.com, which offers
*free* smartphones and accounts with up to 1,000 minutes per month in many
areas. The phone will connect to the internet wherever there's an open
WiFi signal, and does include a browser, though I find it quite hard to
use because it's very difficult to type on the tiny touchscreen keyboard.
But the free phone service alone is more than worth having, compared to
the $100 per year I was formerly paying for a flip-phone account.

--Donald Davis


My flip phone service is free. I gt it from Safelink, which is really
Tracfone. I qualify by my low income. I get 500 min per month, and
rarely use more than 50 min. When I could use the internet on that
phone, I would use more. But that internet was very limited. What I miss
most was getting weather radar maps when I am on the go.

I actually have an android smartphone, which would qualify for Tracfone.
I can use it at a WIFI, but like you said, those tiny keys are hard to
use, and I really find android very senior unfriendly. Without a mouse,
it's extremely hard to use. I decided that for my phone, I'd just stick
with the flip phone.

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I have ver. 2.0.0.24. I have been using that for decades and never had a
need to upgrade. It does all I need, so why add more bloated crap.

I use gmail, and use their SMTP pop mail to get my email to TB. I no
longer have any web access, using ANY browser in Win98. Changing all the
web to HTTPS ended all my use of the web. Actually, losing the web was
not a big problem. Seems everyone is using facebook now anyhow, and I
absolutely hate FB and would not use it if they paid me. So, goodbye
web....

But now I am getting a constant error in Thunderbird that keeps saying I
dont have some security enabled. I looked in the settings and there is
no security enabled, but when I try to change it, it says that none of
them are usable.

I am sure that no versions made in recent years will load in Win98, but
maybe I can upgrade a few versions? Does anyone know if any newer
version will work? (Do they have better security features)?
Personally I could care less about security. All I do is chit chat with
a few friends and none of it has any secretive stuff. But I guess Google
has other ideas. They dont care who suffers, just as long as they can
control the internet. Soon, it will be much more secure, because no one
will be able to use it.

If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.

Anyhow, I am just wondering if there is any way to upgrade TB. If not, I
guess I'll have to go back to the old fashioned methods of using the
telephone to contact friends, just like i have gone back to using the
books at the library to look stuff up, because I can no longer use the
web.

In a way, it's kind of funny. I was raised to use books to learn stuff,
and use the phone to contact friends. Then we were all given this
amazing tool called the internet to make life easier. It worked great
for about 2 decades. Now it's all been taken away from us. Or at least
from those of us who cant afford a new computer and pay $150 per month
to get high speed internet, which is the only way I can get anything
more than dialup.

And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.