98 Guy wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
I thought I made it clear in my last post that you can't install
any version of FF 3.x without having Kex.
Then he must have KernelEx installed.
If he did, then he could have tried Firefox 10.0.2 (at least). Instead
all he claimed was 3.5.
By "too limited", I meant the bigger picture, not necessarily the
"inherent" limitations of the OS:
Win-98 is inherently a WIN32 OS. What it lacks are the API functions
that have been added to the NT line, and many of the more useful ones
are being replicated by KernelEx, with new ones being added via "stubs".
I can't even install several good (and even older) fundamental
audio and video restoration apps
Heck, even something as good as the near oldest version of Adobe
Audition (which improved on Cool Edit Pro) can't be used,
I've just spent about 15 minutes trying to locate old versions of Adobe
Audition for download - which I can't find.
It can be a challenge, but can reward those who persevere. (Note: 15
minutes doesn't qualify as perseverance :-). But you may be able to find a
cheap OEM version online, if you were so inclined. But if you're not into
audio that much, it probably isn't worth it.
What I can find are various versions of CoolEdit Pro:
http://www.oldversion.com/windows/cool-edit-pro/
I downloaded "Cool Edit Pro 2000 1.1" and installed it, then I installed
the "Cool Edit Pro 2000 Audio Cleanup plug-in 1.1".
After installing the plugin and running CoolEdit, it opens and loads the
wav file "solace.wav" (from the movie "The Sting" ?) - a 10 second piano
clip that contains pops. I fool around with the Transform - Noise
Reduction - Click/Pop eliminator, and I remove the pops, and when I
play the clip I can't hear them.
And it does a fair job at that. But CEP also lacks FSE (frequency space
editing), as I've already mentioned. But its click and pop removal tools
are just fair - there are much better dedicated ones (but not for W98).
So at this point I've satisfied myself that I can perform some basic
level of audio restoration. What else you do, and what this version of
Cool Edit can or can't do, I don't know.
Frequency space editing, and a much better job at removing noise and clicks
and pops (with some other software, and some special restoration plug-ins
for the newer versions of Sound Forge, et al, that won't install on W98).
I could spend a couple of hours downloading this:
Adobe Audition CS6 v5.0.2 build 7 LS7
I wouldn't bother with that bloatware.
Besides which, you'd waste your time, as you've never get it to install on
W98. The newer versions of Adobe Audition are truly bloatware.
http://avaxhome.ws/software/software...g/edi3212.html
From he
http://depositfiles.com/folders/IOOO7XHN9
And then follow the instructions to get the hack/crack working, but
that's too much work just to (possibly) prove to you that I can run the
latest version of Audition under win-98.
And you can't, anyway. You won't even be able to get Adobe Audition 1.5 to
install. (BTDT, even with your vaunted KernelEx). It's a "no go".
My cursory searching for the earliest versions of Audition (released in
August 2003) indicates that it was compatible with Windows 98.
Adobe Audition 1.0, possibly; Adobe Audition 1.5 and above, no way.
Even with your much touted KernelEx, the installer balks, no matter what
compatibility mode or options you select. BTDT.
And even
if it wasn't, it would almost certainly be able to run under Win-98 with
Kex using "win-2000 compatibility" mode.
No BTDT, too. (Who said anything about these apps even being compatible
with Win2000? These apps are too new for both OSs.
and there is nothing available that is installable on W98 that
can do all it can do.
Have you tried to install what you have (presumably some version of
Adobe Audition) on a win-98 system with Kex?
As per above, yes. BTDT.
The other thing I don't miss about W98 was the (much) more frequent
blue screens (I mean, with all my varous software installations and
customizations), which I rarely see with XP.
Blue screens are the result of trying to run win-98 on ancient hardware
with buggy drivers with 32 mb of ram.
I don't think my computer AND the software apps I was playing with at that
time were ancient. They were all of the same vintage. So that's not it.
I did a LOT of experimentation in Win98, if you recall from the newsgroups,
including helping to track down that infamous Win98 windows explorer
"hanging" problem (when deleting a large number of files), which I resolved
by using two IE55 browse DLLs in place of the IE6 versions, if you recall).
If you've ever installed and run win-98 on any hardware circa 2004 and
later (with 2 ghz P4 CPU with at least 256 mb of ram and a decent Nvidia
or ATI video card) you too would experience trouble-free operation.
I've stated here MANY TIMES that win-9x/me got a bad rap because it was
pushed out to consumers at a time when computing hardware was in a
horrible state. Hard drives did not auto-correct for errors, the new
AGP bus was still being worked out, video card drivers were buggy - and
on and on. By the time XP came out for the general consumer, the
hardware standards were raised far beyond what Microsoft called for with
Win-98.
Far too many games played with user accounts, rights, ownerships
and permissions. I enjoy not having to deal with that **** on
Win-98.
I have Administrator access to everything as the sole user,
so that seems to be a non issue for me
Try to edit the hosts file on a win-7 computer. It's an agonizing
process - even if you ARE the administrator.
I can edit the HOSTS file with ease on my XP computer. (Who was talking
about Win7? ICK)
And the limited USB and SATA support.
I notice that you had nothing to say about my comments about USB and
SATA support...
But none of that is as transparent and readily available as it is with
WinXP. Nothing much to add the if you want to spend a bunch of time
and energy trying to get it all to work well in W98, that's your call. I'd
rather have it ALL available at the outset, as I've got enough other things
to pursue. And I sure don't need ANY additional cards or other software or
hardware support gimmicks to get it. And no add ons.