On 4 Oct 2004 23:19:51 -0700, (Daniel Vonboles)
scribbled some thoughts:

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Hello,

When I start my Windows 98 Second Edition into MS-DOS only, or use
an MS-DOS session inside Windows, it reports my total amount of upper
memory as only 111k.

I have DOS=HIGH,UMB, DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS and DEVICE=EMM386.EXE NOEMS
in my CONFIG.SYS, and any other TSRs (DISPLAY.SYS and KEYB.COM) are
being loaded high.

Now, am I mistaken or am I supposed to have 384k of upper memory
available? All I can remember is that when using other versions of
MS-DOS I had considerably more space for TSRs, and I have seen reports
of Window 98 (and Second Edition) machines having more total upper
memory.

This small 111k means I can only load a few programs like DOSLFN
and MSCDEX and so on, and then my conventional memory starts getting
eaten. Could this be my cheap RAM or motherboard? I am just
suspicious that I'm supposed to have more than 111k.

I would appreciate any help, comments, solutions or causes anyone
could offer. Thank you in advance!


Daniel Vonboles


Once upon a time I had only 64MB RAM, then I maxed it out to 380MB (a
Compaq dontcha know). While I do not have any listing from then I do have
info now.


Autoexec.bat
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::Prompt $e[1;32;40mYou are he$_ $e[1;37;40m$P$_$e[1;32;40mHow may I
help you $e[1;31;40m? $e[1;33;40m
::Prompt $e[44;33;1m Location: $e[44;37;1m$P$_$e[44;33;1m Date:
$e[44;37;1m$D $T$_$e[44;33;1m Command $G$e[44;36;1m
Prompt $e[32;40;1m Command $G $e[36;40;1m
@C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\bootup.exe
@PATH
C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6;C:\PROGRA~1\WIN98RK;D:\DO S\Batch;D:\DOS\Calendar;D:\DOS\Command;D:\QBasic;% PATH%
C:\PROGRA~1\LOGITECH\MOUSEW~1\MOUSE.EXE
LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:IDECD001 /M:12
C:\essolo.com

Config.sys
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DEVICE=C:\essolo.sys
DEVICE=C:\Windows\Command\ANSI.sys
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,AUTO,UMB
FILESHIGH=40
BUFFERSHIGH=20,4
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\CPQIDECD.SYS /D:IDECD001


MEM Output:
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Memory Type Total Used Free
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Conventional 640K 40K 600K
Upper 155K 155K 0K
Reserved 0K 0K 0K
Extended (XMS) 65,317K ? 387,400K
---------------- -------- -------- --------
Total memory 66,112K ? 388,000K

Total under 1 MB 795K 194K 600K

Largest executable program size 600K (614,656 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block 0K (0 bytes)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.



mem /c Output:
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Modules using memory below 1 MB:

Name Total Conventional Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
SYSTEM 34,672 (34K) 13,552 (13K) 21,120 (21K)
ANSI 4,320 (4K) 4,320 (4K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 4,320 (4K) 4,320 (4K) 0 (0K)
DBLBUFF 2,976 (3K) 2,976 (3K) 0 (0K)
WIN 3,808 (4K) 3,808 (4K) 0 (0K)
vmm32 61,104 (60K) 2,688 (3K) 58,416 (57K)
COMMAND 7,536 (7K) 7,536 (7K) 0 (0K)
CPQIDECD 9,168 (9K) 0 (0K) 9,168 (9K)
IFSHLP 2,864 (3K) 0 (0K) 2,864 (3K)
MOUSE 26,304 (26K) 0 (0K) 26,304 (26K)
MSCDEX 40,432 (39K) 0 (0K) 40,432 (39K)
Free 614,672 (600K) 614,672 (600K) 0 (0K)

Memory Summary:

Type of Memory Total Used Free
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Conventional 655,360 40,688 614,672
Upper 158,304 158,304 0
Reserved 0 0 0
Extended (XMS) 66,885,024 ? 396,697,600
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Total memory 67,698,688 ? 397,312,272

Total under 1 MB 813,664 198,992 614,672

Largest executable program size 614,656 (600K)
Largest free upper memory block 0 (0K)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.


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Mind you these values were run whilst in Windows. Perhaps
adding more RAM and/or getting different drivers/updating
your drivers might help, or tweaking your settings a little
bit differently?

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