Thanks for letting me know. Do you have a broadband connection and are you
willing to share any software that you have at this newsgroup with us? You
do not have to tell us if you do not want to of course.
"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
...
: Well, we live in an era of 'instant PC Experts'
:
: the typical'my brother in law-sez, ......., and the secretary at work.....
:
: roof is needed not rumors.
:
: I've had the update for 4 days and nothing has raised an ugly head yet.
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: It is just what people are saying. I don't have any proof.
:
: "SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
: ...
: : Any particular boards?
: :
: : Is this well founded and some one has absolute proof, or just some one
: : saying it must be ...?
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Read the discussion boards and you will see that it is causing havoc
: with
: : some user's machines and associated software and/or hardware. For
: some
: of
: : the users baddies are definately involved but definately not with all
: the
: : users.
: :
: : "SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : Whata's the downside of this update?
: : :
: : : "Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
: : : ...
: : : Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I want to
: : install
: : : it on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install these
: updates
: : in
: : : general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But on
: the
: : other
: : : hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of KB891711, the
: : : inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this patch
: is
: : far
: : : greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine. Keep in
: mind
: : that
: : : there have been several updates this year considered "important"
for
: : Windows
: : : 98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune pointed
: out,
: : the
: : : difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not so
: : significant
: : : in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine probably
*is*
: : : vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100% secure
: all
: : the
: : : time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about not
: having
: : this
: : : one patch installed.
: : :
: : : And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running
: WITHOUT
: : : anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I decided I
: would
: : run
: : : a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what - nothing
: found
: : other
: : : than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important thing is
: being
: : : aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the Internet.
: : :
: : : Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was, but
what
: I
: : do
: : : know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in this
: manner,
: : : without informing the users of the potential caveats, and
apparently
: : without
: : : testing in dial-up systems, etc.
: : :
: : :
: : :
: : : "Dan" wrote in message
: : : ...
: : : According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update that
: has
: : as
: : : of now
: : : not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need this
: critical
: : : update
: : : because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a way to
: : : compromise
: : : all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch and
have
: not
: : : been
: : : updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers will
be
: a
: : : maximum of
: : : 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is
: connected
: to
: : the
: : : Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE" running
: because
: : I
: : : am
: : : sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better fix
but
: : this
: : is
: : : a
: : : temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe while
: : on-line.
: : : If
: : : programs are not responding then discover why. People you need
: this
: : : CRITICAL
: : : PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run with the
: : patch
: : : because
: : : of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove Ethernet
: cable,
: : USB
: : : cable
: : : or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if you do
: not
: : do
: : : this
: : : and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just asking
for
: : your
: : : system
: : : to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends although
: I
: : know
: : a
: : : lot
: : : about security on computers and weak access points and could
: : probably
: : do
: : : it
: : : without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is with
: keeping
: : the
: : : U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers to
try
: and
: : get
: : : one
: : : small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby, the
: : : terriorists and
: : : finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others can
: help
: : you
: : : with
: : : your computer problems. Have a nice day!
: : :
: : : "98 Guy" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : :
: : : : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: : : :
: : : :
:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: : : :
: : : : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past
: week)
: : : : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
: : : : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the
: : background.
: : : : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any
: such
: : update
: : : : or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of
: : simply
: : : : replacing an existing file).
: : : :
: : : : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is
: : critical
: : : : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply
: : deactivating
: : : : it (via msconfig).
: : : :
: : : : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and
: : KB891711.EXE?
: : : :
: : : : Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe
: mode
: : to
: : : : properly install it) ?
: : : :
: : : : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: : : :
: : : : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
: : :
: : :
: : :
: :
: :
: :
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