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Old January 22nd 05, 12:08 AM
Dan
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Actually, I have no sites at all in the trusted zone because I just find it
too risky. Thanks again for all your input, Gary. I guess I just read into
what you wrote too much about Microsoft.com being hacked in the past. I do
not know either if that particular site has ever been successfully hacked
into.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Note: I did *not* say (or didn't mean to say) that Microsoft.com could
: be hacked. Nor do I know of any instance in which they were. Not that it
: would surprise me if they could and/or had been, but I only used them as
: one example of sites that I have heretofore put into my Trusted Zone for
: the sake of convenience. I no longer put any remote sites into my
: Trusted Zone.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Yeah, that is kinda scary. Here I am in the 21st century and I still
: do most
: of my banking the old fashioned way just to be extra safe. silly me
: I
: guess If Microsoft.com can be hacked then I guess no one is
: completely safe
: on-line. sigh
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : It's a possibility, and one that most Spyware/Adware/Trojan scanners
: : look for. But the problem isn't just sites that shouldn't be Trusted
: : getting added to the list. The really *nasty* problem is when
: invaders
: : hack into a site that really *should* be able to be
: : trusted--Microsoft.com, or your online banking site. the invaders
: can
: : then get into your system via the supposedly trusted site.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Gary, do you have any idea how common it is for users to get sites
: : placed
: : into their trusted zones thus allowing a hacker more access to a
: : user's pc?
: : I have seen things like this happen before.
: :
: : "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : If something like eBay doesn't work without enabling Cookies (as
: : will
: : : happen with many sites, especially sites where purchasing is
: : involved,
: : : or where you want to personalize it or set up an account) then I
: put
: : a
: : : check mark in the appropriate box and allow the cookie to be
: set.
: : You
: : : will see no more prompts for that site. Ditto, for sites where
: you
: : : *know* you never want cookies set, check the box and then refuse
: it.
: : A
: : : list is kept in the settings that lists domains and whether to
: : Always
: : : Allow or Always Block. Over a relatively short period of time,
: your
: : : machine will have "learned" when to set cookies and when not
: : to--though,
: : : of course, any new site will prompt if it wants to set a cookie.
: : Just
: : : remember--When in doubt, do not check the "Remember" box before
: : allowing
: : : or blocking cookies. And look at the name of the domain that is
: : trying
: : : to set the cookie. Quite often, it's not from the main page, but
: : rather
: : : from an advertising inset.
: : :
: : : Other sites require other permissions, such as for Active-X.
: These
: : : permissions are based upon Zones, with most sites outside your
: local
: : : machine or LAN set to the Internet Zone where permissions are
: : relatively
: : : strict. Super-restrictive permissions (block *everything*) are
: : applied
: : : to the Restricted Zone, and some Spyware Blockers use that
: method in
: : : addition to others. A HOSTS file absolutely blocks a site by not
: : even
: : : allowing access, period.
: : :
: : : For a long time, I was in the habit of declaring the more
: : complicated
: : : sites that use a lot of Active-X, for instance, as Trusted
: Sites.
: : : Trusted Zone settings are more lax. However, it has occurred
: lately
: : that
: : : even well maintained and trustworthy sites have been shown as
: : capable of
: : : being invaded by hackers, which then can do pretty much anything
: : they
: : : want based upon accessing your machine from a Trusted Zone.
: : :
: : : --
: : : Gary S. Terhune
: : : MS MVP Shell/User
: : :
: : : "Moonraker" wrote in message
: : : ...
: : : Hi Gary,
: : :
: : : The cookie blocking - Now I am on the settings you suggested
: : obviously
: : : we
: : : keep getting prompts (which can be a bit of a pain) and we
: could
: : not
: : : log on
: : : to ebay at all, haven't tried ebuyer yet where we buy computer
: : stuff.
: : : Do you
: : : adjust the settings as you need to or is there a "cunning
: plan"
: : :
: : : Again thanks for your help Steve.
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