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Old September 19th 17, 10:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_2_]
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Default Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)

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My only (affordable) means to connect to the internet is to use Dialup,
(because of my location). And I have never been able to establish a
usable connection using Win XP, or even Win 2000.


You've mentioned this before; perhaps it's time to try again to sort out
why. (Possibly in the XP 'group.)
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internet to email and run the newsgroups.


(You _run_ some newsgroups? Which ones?)

Now, even my email is giving me security errors. I am using Thunderbird
2.0.0.24. I am not sure if this is the final version of TB to work in
Win98, but I have used it for decades and have never seen a reason to
upgrade it. It has always worked fine. Personally, I could care less


(Actually, I think you mean you _couldn't_ care less. But I know the
form you used is the norm in US English.)

about security with my email. I talk to friends about cars, pets, and

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Bur lately, I get this f**king error every time I try to get my email:

"Thunderbird cant connect securely to website-archive.mozilla.org
because it uses a security protocol which isnt enabled."

First off, why is TB trying to connect to Mozilla? Yea, I know TB is one
of their products, but it appears they are trying to archive all my
emails, and there is absolutely no reason for that.


My first guess is that your ISP (which you're hiding from us of course),
or at least email provider if not the same as your ISP, has changed how
their email server interacts with users. I presume from your indignation
that your ISP isn't Mozilla. (Is it yahoo?) There may be a setting in
Thunderbird which you can turn on that will keep the server happy; I've
certainly seen such settings, though I don't know if they've always been
in TB so the version you're using may not have them. But I suspect it
does.

(Why it's trying to contact Mozilla, I have no idea.)

Failing success with that route, other email clients may work; I know
Eudora (6 on at least) has _some_ sort of secure communication facility
- don't know about Outlook Express, or any of the others that do '9x.
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I still dont understand why there needs to be all this f**king security
just to read a webpage on Wikipedia or any other read-only website.


YANA!

And now this.....

I predicted the demise of the internet several years ago, it's now
happening. Pretty soon it will be so secure that no one will be able to


Well, it's _changing_ (has changed).

use it, at least not unless they have the latest Operating System, with
all the bloated crap software they are making these days. And I have to


Or use a 'phone. (Of course, those probably go out of date too, but
since most smartphone users seem to change them about every three calls
[assuming they ever make or receive calls on them] ...)
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the internet was usable and even enjoyable at one time. I guess those
days are gone.

Certainly a lot of it is more hard work than it used to be. There is of
course a lot more available than used to be (my hobby, genealogy, is
_much_ easier than it once was), but you _do_ have to work harder, I
agree. (FWIW, I'm using XP, and _I_ feel like a dinosaur sometimes. [I
_do_ have a '98SElite machine, and I do use it online, but mainly only
for one site.])

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