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Old April 26th 06, 11:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Major partition problem

"Hoppy" wrote in message
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| On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 08:45:51, Bill wrote:
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| "Hoppy" wrote in message
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| On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 12:57:55, Bill wrote:
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| "Hoppy" wrote in message
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| Hello, All!
|
| I used Partition Magic 8.02 to create a new 1GB partition (J,
taking
| the space from E:. At the end of operation, I received an error
| that "...cross-linked files were found." There was no option other
than
| to continue. PM then called DriverMapper and it seemed to go
smoothly.
|
| On reboot, Windows Explorer shows E: and J: with no labels. When I
click
| on the drives, I get an error that says, "E:\ is not accessible. A
device
| attached to the system is not functioning."
|
| In Device Manager on the Performance tab, it says "Drive E is using
an
| MS-DOS compatibility mode file system."
|
| In DOS, ScanDisk says, "...cannot examine drive E:" I did not try
J:
|
| Also in DOS, FDisk shows E:'s size as it should (10000MB), but
shows
| System "Unknown" (-- it should be FAT32 --) with an 18% Usage --
which is
| about right. FDisk does not show J: at all.
|
| Partition Magic shows E: as it should -- FAT32; (new) Size:
10,001.4MB;
| Used: 1150.5, set as Logical. Drive J: does not appear at all.
What
| does
| show is 1004.1MB of Unallocated space after E:; this was supposed
to be
| the new J: partition.
|
| Look in the Partition Magic directory tree for partinfo.exe. Open a
DOS
| prompt, CD to that dir, and run
| partinfo partinfo.txt
|
| Open partinfo.txt in notepad and Copy/Paste/Post to this thread.
|
| Don't try to fix E: (or J until you find out what the problem is.
|
| I'm getting too old for this. Here's the file. I'll try to attach
it to
| my post as well; I hope that's not breaking any rules.
|
| No, that's fine. Actually better as attached.
|
| The extended partition chain has a corrupt link in the chain for one.
|
| Assuming all the start sectors LBA values are correct.
|
| The first EMBR/second table entry contains an incorrect value for LBA
"Num
| sectors" (total sectors remaining in the extended partition).
|
| The second EMBR/first table entry contains an incorrect value for LBA
"Num
| sectors" (total in "this" logical drive).
|
| Again, that's assuming the start sector numbers are correct. If math
| corrected the E: logical drive still may not show. The "E:" boot
sector
| doesn't show, so may also be corrupt, start elsewhere, or DOS/Windows
has a
| problem with those incorrect values.
|
| You could try to correct the values yourself, and see what that does,
or
| probably safer use something like DiskPatch or MBRWork to scan the
disk for
| the missing partitions. I'd use DiskPatch first, as freeware MBRWork
is a
| "do or die" operation. The demo version of DiskPatch is read-only, so
won't
| do any damage. http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/DiskPatch.htm
|
| Your existing partitions probably aren't at too much risk, but you
never
| know. Back up all important data before fixing anything.
|
|
================================================== ======================
==
| Disk 0: 7476 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track.
| BiosExtensions: 0x100 Subsets (0x00000003): Access Lock/Eject
| The BIOS supports INT 13h extensions for this drive.
| ========================== Partition Tables
==============================
| Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start
Num
| Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect
Sects
| ---------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- ----------
| ---------- 0 0 80 0 1 1 0B 305 254 63
63
| 4915827 0 1 00 [ 306 0 1] 0F [ 307 254 63]
4915890
| 115186050 [Large Drive Placeholders] 306 0 1
| 7475 254 63 Actual Values 4915890 0 00 306 1 1 0B
777
| 254 63 4915953 7582617 4915890 1 00 778 0 1 05
[1023
| 254 63] 12498570 20482875 [Large Drive Placeholders]
| 778 0 1 2052 254 63 Actual Values 12498570 0 00
778 1
| 1 0B [1023 254 63] 12498633 20482812 [Large Drive
Placeholders]
| 778 1 1 2052 254 63 Actual Values 12498570 1 00 [
133 0
| 1] 05 [ 307 254 63] 35037765 85064175 [Large Drive
Placeholders]
| 2181 0 1 7475 254 63 Actual Values 35037765 0 00 [
133
| 1 1] 0B [ 735 254 63] 35037828 9687132 [Large Drive
| Placeholders] 2181 1 1 2783 254 63
Actual
| Values 35037765 1 00 [ 736 0 1] 05 [ 307 254 63]
44724960
| 75376980 [Large Drive Placeholders] 2784 0 1
| 7475 254 63 Actual Values 44724960 0 00 [ 736 1 1] 0B [
752
| 254 63] 44725023 16723602 [Large Drive Placeholders]
| 2784 1 1 3824 254 63 Actual Values 44724960 1 00 [
753
| 0 1] 05 [ 307 254 63] 61448625 58653315 [Large Drive
| Placeholders] 3825 0 1 7475 254 63
Actual
| Values 61448625 0 00 [ 753 1 1] 0B [ 302 254 63]
61448688
| 25671807 [Large Drive Placeholders] 3825 1 1
| 5422 254 63 Actual Values 61448625 1 00 [ 303 0 1] 05 [
307
| 254 63] 87120495 32981445 [Large Drive Placeholders]
| 5423 0 1 7475 254 63 Actual Values 87120495 0 00 [
303
| 1 1] 0B [ 307 254 63] 87120558 32981382 [Large Drive
| Placeholders] 5423 1 1 7475 254 63
Actual
| Values
|
| Disk[0], Part[44724960]: Warning #113: EPBR partition starting at
44724960
| overlaps previous EPBR partition.
|
| Disk[0], Part[61448625]: Warning #113: EPBR partition starting at
61448625
| overlaps previous EPBR partition.
|
| Disk[0], Part[87120495]: Warning #113: EPBR partition starting at
87120495
| overlaps previous EPBR partition.
|
| Thank you very much for responding, Bill (and PCR).

You are welcome.

| I'm sorry for not
| responding sooner, but your discussion with PCR has me reeling a bit.
I
| will probably take your suggestion about the trial version of
DiskPatch --
| especially since it read-only.

That is sensible. I Googled "MBRWork logical drive", but could not
easily find what I wanted-- whether it tries to recover logical drives
or just the container Extended Partition(s) itself along with the
Primary Partition(s). My guess is still... it won't! The chain that
defines the logicals must be intact. It only works on the four actual
partitions that are in an MBR-- which normally is up to 3 Primary & 1
Extended. If you wanted to create a J:, you must have had 7 partitions
before-- meaning there are logical partitions involved. I don't think
MBRWork can handle it-- UNLESS PM did everything it should except to
adjust the MBR.

BUT, I will post your problem to... "public.apps.bootitng" of
"terabyteunlimited.com", just to see for sure. They wrote the thing!

| At this point I am not willing to lose any
| files on this HDD, and I'm not ready to commit to any procedure until
I'm
| 1000% sure of its outcome.

Be very cautious, then. You know I can't be sued? (But Blanton has no
disclaimer.)

| There used to be a second HDD in this machine,
| and I've spent many hours hacking the registry to correct its
addresses.
| This box was destined for disassembly until I had a problem with my XP
| machine. I'm wondering if the removal of the drive had something to
do with
| the misbehaviour of Partition Magic.

I don't know. Maybe, because the Registry is always busy.

| I will probably start working on this mess during the upcoming
weekend.
| Hopefully I can image and burn my drives to CD just in case I trash
the HDD
| while trying to fix it.

That is very sensible. I only hope it CAN be done in the present
circumstance.

| Last night I remembered that I imaged these drives
| and burned them to DVD on my XP machine -- which is currently down due
a yet
| undiagnosed hardware issue.

Would be best, if those are good. Your whole problem goes away then!

| In the meantime, I'm hoping there may be a PowerQuest veteran at
Symantec
| who may be able to help. I've only used PQ tech support once before
(with
| Drive Image) and once I was sure they understood my problem, they
quickly
| solved it. Hopefully this time around, I can be so lucky.

Give them a try. I'll post it to "public.apps.bootitng".

| It sounds like you have experience with PM, Bill. Do you think
there's any
| chance that reallocating the space on the J: drive might solve the
problem?

Don't call me Bill! There are too many, already! Just ask Colorado! Best
would be that the Images you did to DVD are good.

| Also, I'm thinking of snipping PartInfo from this post. Will that
cause any
| problem with future responses?

No. But anyone new looking in will have to do a bunch more clicking.

| BTW, whatever you guys are doing with your quotes has made subsequent
posts
| pretty unreadable -- tons of breaks.

That has to be all Blanton's fault now! I'm sending UUEncode!

| --
| Hoppy
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