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Old March 12th 05, 04:33 AM
glee
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The OP is apparently using the wrong file name in his post, as the properties he
lists are correct for iexplore.exe, and he cites the location of the file as
"c:\progra~1\intern~2". So, I don't think he is referring to explorer.exe, but
rather iexplore.exe
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~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"PCR" wrote in message
...
Your EXPLORER.EXE is suspicious. Following are the Properties of it in
Win98SE...

EXPLORER.EXE
Desc: Windows Explorer
Loc: C:\WINDOWS
Size: 180,224 bytes
Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM
Ver: 4.72.3110.1

That file has NEVER changed, despite I took every critical at Windows
Update. Better replace it from your .cab's. Here is how to do it in
DOS...

(a) DIR /s /a C:\EXPLORER.EXE
Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
"C:\Windows", thus...

C:\DIR /s /a C:\EXPLORER.EXE
Directory of C:\WINDOWS
EXPLORER EXE 180,224 04-23-99 10:22p EXPLORER.EXE
1 file(s) 180,224 bytes

If yours is elsewhere, especially in "C:\", it could be a virus or
corrupt. Also, it's size is very suspicious. RENAME any that does not
look like mine (but I am Win98SE)...

REN C:\Explorer.exe Explorer.exeX
...If it is in "C:\", for instance.

(b)
"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows LOC\Base4.cab EXPLORER.EXE"

That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter
the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there.

LOC is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
follows...

C:\DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
1 file(s) 168,960 bytes

If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
instead of "C:\" in that DIR command.

So, in my case, the command is...

"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
EXPLORER.EXE"

All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including one
after "Base4.cab".


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"tgregg99" wrote in message
...
| Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication:
|
| 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit
| c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to
| 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and
re-booted.
|
| 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory of
| folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by entering
the
| command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was displayed
asking
| me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i selected
Repair
| IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an error
| message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So I
rebooted
| again.
|
| 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to 'Shell='Progman.exe'
and
| rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error message
and
| the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which did
not
| display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' earlier
and
| rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and tried
to
| launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on it,
and when
| i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to be
| processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch it
from the
| Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened.
when i
| clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked the
| Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version
6.00.2800.1106
| .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc.
|
| So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in the
c:
| directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still have no
| desktop icons and no programs are launching.
|
| Thoughts?
|
| p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event that
you
| can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library within
the hour
| to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll check
back to
| this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand.
|
| Thanks for your continued support!!!!
|
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get back
to this thread
| for a few hours.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~
|
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| Again, be very careful not to do anything more than run IE Repair
using
| Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed up.
Also,
| if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing System.ini
back
| to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to
| force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to
Shell=Winfile.exe
| and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder
(usually
| C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose "Add
| Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the
option
| that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that is
bolded
| (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously
deleted the
| setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then this
will
| probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the installation
files
| on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to
download
| them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "tgregg99" wrote in message
| news | Gary,
|
| I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll
follow your
| recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and I
take
| great care
| in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and technical
| writer :-)
| .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon with my
| results.
|
| Thanks!!!
| Terry
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
| Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested.
|
| And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, and
when
| one
| thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what to
do
| next.
| IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate
fruit,
| doesn't
| mean it didn't need to be done.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "tgregg99" wrote in
message
| ...
| Gary,
|
| I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' but
upon
| re-booting, the following error was displayed:
|
| 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall Windows.'
|
| so, what can i do now?
|
| Thanks!!!
| Terry
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
| As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, you
use
| the
| Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change the
| "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to:
|
| Shell=Progman.exe
|
| Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to
Windows
| without
| having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run the IE
Repair
| or
| reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't work,
try
| Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using these
modes,
| and
| only
| use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can mess
up the
| file
| system if you do certain things, particularly
Copy/Paste/Move
| operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are
completed,
| re-edit
| System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "tgregg99" wrote in
message
| ...
| Glen,
|
| Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most
recent
| registry
| backups
| -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe
days
| before
| my
| problem
| -- still, this didn't work.
|
| I'm confused about ...
|
| Following that, use the info mentioned in the link I
gave
| you to
| reinstall IE, but
| instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe.
|
| .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could
click
| Start ..
| Run
| ....
| but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt and
use
| DOS
| .... so
| how do
| i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt?
|
| Thanks .. looking forward to your answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
| Terry
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| Each time you use a different .cab file backup in
scanreg
| /restore,
| you are
| replacing the Registry with the one using that dat,
and
| "going
| back"
| to that date as
| far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of the
| restores
| helped the problem,
| you should go back and restore the most recent backup
prior
| to
| when
| you began the
| restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went
back a
| couple
| of
| days, there
| should not be much difference other than the entries
for the
| updates
| you did).
|
| Following that, use the info mentioned in the link I
gave
| you to
| reinstall IE, but
| instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe.
|
| Post back with your results.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~
|
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "tgregg99" wrote
in
| message
|
...
| Glee ...
|
| I tried using DOS command 'scanreg /restore' and
selecting
| the
| backup
| (rb###.cab files) -- i tried each one, rebooting
each
| time,
| but
| that didn't
| work. I also used the DOS command to 'edit the
| c:\windows\system.ini' file
| and replaced 'explorer.exe' with 'progman.exe' where
you
| told
| me,
| then saved
| and rebooted, then got an error that 'progman.exe
could
| not be
| found, must
| reinstall windows' or something to that effect.
|
| One other thing i forgot to mention. I downloaded
Windows
| updates
| to my pc,
| the night before my Windows crashed. One or two of
the
| updates
| were for IE6.
|
| Any other suggestions? Thank you for helping me
with
| this!!!!
|
| Terry
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| Before trying the procedure mentioned in my first
reply,
| you
| may
| want to try
| this
| first:
| Boot to DOS Mode by accessing the boot menu at
startup
| and
| selecting Command
| Prompt
| Only (you get to the boot menu the same way you
get to
| it
| when
| you selected Safe
| Mode).
| At the DOS Prompt, type:
| scanreg /restore
| and press Enter.
| Select one of the backups (rb###.cab files) dated
JUST
| prior
| to
| when the problem
| occurred.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "glee" wrote in message
| ...
| Follow the procedures he
| Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer
Upgrade in
| Windows
| 98:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html
| or
| http://tinyurl.com/r5ba
|
| Especially this section at the end:
|
| "If you still have boot problems after you
reboot, you
| should
| use the command
| prompt
| to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On the
command
| line
| type edit
| c:\windows\system.ini.
|
| "Once it is open, change the line
shell=explorer.exe
| to
| shell=progman.exe.
| What
| you
| are doing here is changing the default shell
(that is
| having
| problems) from
| the
| Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program
Manager
| shell.
|
| "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully boot
with
| no
| errors into an empty
| Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run |
Browse
| drop
| down
| menu selection to
| browse to c:\program files\internet explorer and
| launch
| ie5setup.exe or
| ie6setup.exe
| (depending on what is there). Do a custom
install and
| check
| all the Bold faced
| options. When the setup program alerts you that
these
| files
| are already
| installed,
| tell it to reinstall all of the files.
|
| "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is
done and
| reboots,
| hit the F8 key
| to
| bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt and
boot
| to
| the
| command prompt.
| Once
| there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, once
it is
| open,
| change the line
| shell=progman.exe back to shell=explorer.exe.
Save and
| exit
| the file. You have
| now
| set the shell back to the original value."
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "tgregg99"
wrote
| in
| message
|
| news | Can someone please help me resolve my problem?
Upon
| starting MS Windows 98,
| I see the MS Windows screen then it appears to
start
| loading
| programs as
| usual, then i get the above ERROR message. I
then
| restarted
| via SAFE mode,
| but there were no desktop icons. Upon
checking
| Program
| Manager, I only see
| 'Runapp' and no other programs listed. I
checked my
| memory
| via DOS prompt,
| and everything looks normal (but I really am
not a
| DOS
| user,
| so I'm limited
| in my ability to use DOS commands). I
restarted
| again
| and
| tried step by
| step
| confirmation, but again, I only get the above
ERROR
| message.
|
| I don't have the CD - or - the diskettes for
loading
| MS
| Windows 98. Is
| there a way to restore my MS Windows 98
otherwise?
|
| I appreciate your time and help very much ..
thank
| you!!!
|
| Terry
|
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