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Old July 27th 08, 11:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.software
jj mac
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Default Problem installing network cards on laptop

Mart
Thanks once again for your helpful reply. I am pleased to let you know that
I have located the two files NDIS.VXD (153KB)and NTKERN.VXD (199 KB) in
WIN9XWIN20 on the Gateway Operating System Backup CD (ver ME). I suffered a
little medical problem a couple of days ago and expect to be confined to bed
for three or four days. I don’t intend to extract these files and save them
in C:\Windows\System\vmm32 until Iget back on my feet. In due course I will
let you know how I get on
Regards

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JJ MacA


"Mart" wrote:

JJ, as you appear to have an OEM version of WinMe then you might have to do
a little searching.

Clean/fresh copies of NDIS.VXD and NTKERN.VXD are both contained in the
WIN_20.CAB, perhaps located in the \Win9x\ folder.

This CAB file is *normally* located in either the C:Windows\Options\Install
or C:Windows\Options\CABS folders (depending on whether MS or OEM versions.)

However, *some* OEM's may locate the full set of Installation CAB files
elsewhere (\Win9x\?) - or *may not* install them to your HDD at all. And, I
suspect that your OEM version may be the latter.

NB. the full set of WinMe Installation files - if included by your OEM -
should be contained in a folder (mentioned above) containing some 10 or so
other .CAB files, the setup.exe file and be in the order of 150MB.

Personally, I wouldn't attempt to mix 98SE files with WinMe files - but as a
last resort? - your choice! Clean install time?

Good luck

Mart



"jj mac" jj wrote in message
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Mike
I have had another look over this problem and have decided that I might as
well check out the suggested fix of extracting fresh copies of NDIS.VXD &
NTKERN.VXD and saving them in C:\Windows\System|vmm32 - if only to
eliminate
it as a possible solution.
Whereas I was able to find the files usbhub.sys, uhcd.sys & usbd.sys in
the
Operating System CD nowhere therein can I find the aforementioned .VXD
files. They must be somewhere on the CD if they are part of Windows ME..

Where might I find these files.? Can you
help please.? The three .sys files were in folder \Win9x\Base2 in the CD.
I retrieved an old Windows 98SE computer from the attic and was able to
extract a copy of NTKERN.VXD to floppy disk . I have been tempted to try
installing it in the laptop but thought better not to try.
I know that there is a copy of NDIS.VXD in C:\Windows\System. In the
event that I am unable to extract a fresh copy of NTKERN.VXD is there a
way
that I could check that there is at least an existing copy of that file
in
vmm32? I have a sneeking suspicion that it might be missing.

Thank you

--
JJ MacA


"Mike M" wrote:

Where would I find a SFC program?

It forms part of Windows 98 and Windows 98SE. Use of SFC is irrelevant,
you already know how to extract a file from the Win Me cab files. This
aspect of SFC is now part of Win Me's MSConfig (Extract on the General
tab).

Placing a new copy of one of the files incorporated into vmm32.vxd in the
folder windows\system\vmm32 (rather than windows\system32\drivers) causes
that file to be used rather than the one in vmm32.vxd. This is the
mechanism used to update such files. If your system were to have been
updated you would find an updated copy of ifsmgr.vxd in the vmm32 folder
which is an updated version of the file that was built into vmm32.vxd
when
the system was first installed. Details of this particular hotfix can be
found at KB273017 (
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=273017) although I
only mention this because it illustrates a file built-in to vmm32.vxd
being updated not because it has any bearing on your problem..

Should I give it a try.

Your choice entirely but nothing you have posted suggests a problem with
the files you mention but on the other hand it won't do any harm. Read
the error message again and the KB article to which I referred. It
doesn't say the device loader is missing or broken, it says instead that
the device loader is unable to load the driver files which is somewhat
different. This suggests that the driver file is the one that is
damaged.
I still feel you should reinstall the drivers which I'm not sure that you
have done.
--
Mike Maltby



jj mac jj
wrote:

Mike

Thank you for your prompt reply.

I have tried to update the device drivers in Device Manager using an
updated driver supplied by the vendor of the PCMCIA wireless card and
the drivers supplied with the card.(the Microsoft proposed fix.)
Likewise with the USB to Fast Ethernet Adapter.
In each case I got a message to say that the best driver was already
installed.
I also deleted/removed the devices in Device manager & reinstalled
them from scratch using the Add New Hardware Wizard. No resolution
was found. The ubiquitous "NDIS.VXD,NTKERN.VXD device loader(s) for
this device could not load the device driver." Error message remains.

I have Googled NDIS.VXD,NTKERN.vxd and find that many others have
similar problems with these device loaders. There are a number of
solutions mentioned that have worked for some but not for others. In
one of your posts you mentioned that NTKERN.VXD was a core device
driver built into the monolithic file vmm32.vxd. One solution which
caught my eye was to refresh/replace NTKERN.VXD in vmm32. It was
described for a win.98 machine but it could also work for WIN ME.
The solution is described as follows: Run sfc to extract NTKERN.VXD
from the Windows 98 SE disk into C:\windows\system and
C:\windows\system\vmm32, and reboot. That's it.
AND this statement which I do not understand followed.
To resolve this behavior, remove the following two lines of code in
the C:\Autoexec.bat file by using a text editor,
SET windir=C:\WINDOWS
SET winbootdir=C:\WINDO

Should I give it a try. I would like your opinion. Where would I
find a SFC program?