I would prefer to do it myself, I was really chickening out, as i thought I
wouldn't be clever enough to do it, but if you think we can do it together, I
am willing to take the time to go through the different things. As long as
you have the time and inclination to help me, and you think that between us,
we can do it. I am willing to give it another go. I realise that there are
only 24 hours in every day and you can only do so much, so I will try and be
a bit more patient.
So when ever you are ready we will begin, and thanks again.
"Noel Paton" wrote:
You're in the UK (you really need to read the posting advice page in my sig
about Munging your address!)
A new PC will set your friend back about £400-£2000.
A local techie (if he's any good) should be able to retrieve the system for
around £50 + hardware costs (at worst) - or at least give you some idea what
needs doing for £20
If you go to the likes of PCWorld, they are likely to turn around after five
minutes and tell you the system is irretrievable, charge you £25 for the
privilege, and then try to sell you a new system for as much as they can
screw out of you.
If you and your friend are prepared for a rather long-drawn-out process of
elimination (which is what PCW and anyone else will do - except quicker),
and a learning process (which PCW can't provide), while we find out exactly
what the problems are, and fix them (and only them, hopefully!), then it
costs nothing except an investment in time and grey cells.
The process in these groups can take time, if for no other reason than I
have a 'real' job, and I do this for fun (it's all right - the men in white
coats arrive every other week to pick me up for repairg), so I'm not
available all the time (and have a large number of other people hopefully
hanging on my every word), and have to sleep sometime! The upside is 1) you
get to learn a little about your PC 2) you get the system fixed for the
least amount of money 3) there are a number of other (and better) experts
looking in, who can either add to what I say, or argue against it if they
consider that I'm talking rubbish (which does occasionally happen!),
Your choice!
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"Brande" wrote in message
...
No there is no 5.25 floppy on this machine only the normal one. I was
hoping
that this 5.25 floppy wasn't going to make any difference, but
you know all that gobildy goof at the beginning of the start up where it
says
all about the computer, it says Diskette A none, diskette B none.
I did downlaod the winme bootdisk from where you said, but when I put it
in,
it totally ignored it and carries on as normal.
I think I had better take this machine in to the shop, what do you say.
Do you think it will be retreavable, with someone a bit more adapt at the
controls.
As I say its a neighbours, so she wants to know is it worth saving,
considering the prices on some of these laptops these days. In other words
do
you think it would cost more to mend it than, say half the price of a desk
top.
"Noel Paton" wrote:
Hmmm - the mention of the 5.25 floppy is a little worrying (unless you
are
lucky enough to have such an antique installed!).
From what you say, it sounds as if your BIOS may have been reset to the
default - which can be either good, or bad, depending on the age of the
motherboard and BIOS.
If you're unable to create the boot disk from the links that Jack has
posted, then let us know the error messages you get, and we'll see what
we
can do.
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"Brande" wrote in message
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I haven't got a windows start up disk, I only have a Product recovery
cd-rom,
an international installation disk and a floppy that says atapi device
driver
v 0.02 for dos/windows 3.1(I don't know if that has anything to do with
it).
The page you sent me to says to delete windows media and IE6 before
loading,
which I obviously can't do, then it says to boot using a start up disk,
which
I haven't got. Can I download one from somewhere on to here and then
take
it
over there.
When I start the computer it goes through all the steps in the
beginning
and
then it does a scan of the computer because it hasn't shut down
properly,
I
noticed that when it does this the part at the top only says floppy and
c
drive and the floppy says 5.25 floppy, i don't know if that makes any
difference, I jsut thought I would mention it.
There is no problem with loosing data as there was nothing on there,
only
the basics that it started with.
I will read through that article you gave me and see if anything else
helps,
I only gave it a quick read this morning.
"Noel Paton" wrote:
From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed
to
delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be
possible,
but young minds...).
I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over
itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your
data.
See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't
strictly
apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get
there
in the end.....
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm
post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your
PC!!
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"Brande" wrote in message
...
I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool
mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is
then
this
wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some
problem
with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I
was
trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and
tried
to
get
some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of
doing
this???
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote:
"Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt
when
you
cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is
involved
is
booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI
such
that
the
line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After
removing
the
floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is
launched
after
which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see
MS
KB
279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command
Prompt"
(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736).
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003
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"Brande" wrote in message
...
My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on
and
the
computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this
game
on
he
went
into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the
computer
to
load
up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but
nothing.
I
have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it.
Any suggestions
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