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Old September 27th 09, 12:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
internaughtfull
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Default Help with USB hang, raid drivers

On Sep 26, 10:08*am, 98 Guy wrote:
internaughtfull wrote:
Hi,
I've got win98SE *thats worked for quite awhile,
although recently when I boot up and the modem is plugged in
the USB port,


Get an ethernet card (if you don't already have one) and plug your modem
into the ethernet port (don't use USB).

I'm assuming this is a cable or DSL modem (broadband internet modem).

I have to do a clean install of win98 on *another disk that
has a Promise RAID controller on it. I know that when doing
a clean install of XP you have to hit F6 at a certain moment
and stick the driver in during setup--or, you can do it later
when the software wizard pops up.


Is there something similar with win98 I need to look out for?


Is this Promise controller for SATA drives, or IDE?

If it's for Sata, then is your boot or "c" drive going to be a SATA
drive? *The promise controller should have a bios setup menu that you
can access when the system boots, and you can configure your SATA drives
to appear as if they were mapped to a virtual IDE controller (and
therefore not be raid-compatible).

If you leave the Promise controller set as a SATA controller (with or
without RAID enabled) then when you install windows 98, the installation
will proceed smoothly and you will notice nothing wrong, but windows
will be using compatability-mode access for the drive (ie - DOS mode).
To gain full 32-bit performance, you will need to install the promise
win-98 driver (assuming you have one). *You can do this after win-98 has
been fully installed. *You can't do that if you're installing XP (that's
why you need to provide XP the driver during the install process).

Regarding RAID - I don't think it's useful to enable RAID for windows
98. *Certainly if you have only one hard drive, you can't run any form
of raid with only 1 physical hard drive in the system.

If your hard drive is larger than 128 gb, then there are some very
important issues that you need to consider.



They are all EIDE drives, not the newer SATA drives. I have three boot
drives
that I can select from at boot up, and one commonly shared data
drive.
The gigabyte motherboard has a promise raid controller on it so those
drivers
have to be installed. When the XP drive went bad, I learned how to
install
those drivers, yay. Its the Stripe/RAid 1+0 type. Thx for letting me
know
I can install the win98 drivers *after I do a full win98 install.

I probably will pass on the ethernet card, but would the
bootlog.txt method help me diagnose this problem?
That would be booting up with the usb plugged in, and then trying to
access
the bootlog somehow before it got overwritten by a safe mode boot
log.
Is that worth looking at?

Currently, if I boot up a few times in safe mode, shut down, then boot
up into
regular win98, it will not hang if no USB is plugged in.
Then if I turn off the firewall, plug in the modem, then turn the
firewall back on,
I can get internet [and get some answers]. This is ridiculous I know,
and I am
migrating the new modem to the XP drive. Btw it worked fine for a long
time
with no hangs. I will do one of those 'overlay' setup reinstalls and
see if that
helps.

One thing, in Device Manager, under SCSI devices Promise was listed
twice in Safe Mode, so I deleted one of those. This did not help the
USB situation though.
After a reboot and a hang and a return to safe mode, I noticed under
Disk Drives there were two identical Promise entries so I deleted
one. This caused a subsequent reboot to ask for a promise driver
installation which I did, and the
system recovered. Oh well.

thx

itchy