My goof. Apple is not open source -- LOL!!
"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
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: Apple is open source now? Hard to believe.
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Sure Ivan, the patch was not released in the best manner by Microsoft but
: I
: still give Microsoft credit for finally patching the vulnerability. If
: you
: or anyone else want to leave your machine unpatched without this critical
: update then don't come complaining to me later on if someone connects to
: your
: computer and/or network because you were unpatched and makes all kinds of
: changes. Remember, 98, 98SE and ME are in final support stage and last
: support will be elimated on 9x machines after 30 June 2006. Sure on-line
: articles and stuff will still be available but there will be no more
: critical
: updates unless something radical changes at Microsoft. Remember,
: Microsoft
: has insisted on choosing the NT line and I feel that decision is flawed
: and I
: have tried to change them as best as I can but the hope for the future
: seems
: to belong to Linux, Apple, Google, Mozilla and other open-source
: companies.
: Have a nice night!
:
: "Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
: ...
: : Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I want to
install
: it
: on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install these updates in
: general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But on the
: other
: hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of KB891711, the
: inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this patch is
far
: greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine. Keep in mind
: that
: there have been several updates this year considered "important" for
: Windows
: 98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune pointed out, the
: difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not so
: significant
: in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine probably *is*
: vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100% secure all
the
: time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about not having
: this
: one patch installed.
: :
: : And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running WITHOUT
: anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I decided I would
: run
: a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what - nothing found
: other
: than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important thing is being
: aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the Internet.
: :
: : Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was, but what I do
: know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in this manner,
: without informing the users of the potential caveats, and apparently
: without
: testing in dial-up systems, etc.
: :
: :
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: : According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update that has
as
: of
: now
: : not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need this critical
: update
: : because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a way to
: compromise
: : all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch and have not
: been
: : updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers will be a
: maximum of
: : 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is connected to
: the
: : Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE" running because
I
: am
: : sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better fix but this
: is
: a
: : temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe while
on-line.
: If
: : programs are not responding then discover why. People you need this
: CRITICAL
: : PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run with the patch
: because
: : of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove Ethernet cable,
: USB
: cable
: : or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if you do not do
: this
: : and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just asking for your
: system
: : to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends although I
know
: a
: lot
: : about security on computers and weak access points and could probably
: do
: it
: : without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is with keeping
: the
: : U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers to try and
: get
: one
: : small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby, the
: terriorists
: and
: : finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others can help
you
: with
: : your computer problems. Have a nice day!
: :
: : "98 Guy" wrote in message
: ...
: : :
: : : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: : :
: : :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: : :
: : : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past week)
: : : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
: : : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the
: background.
: : : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any such
: update
: : : or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of simply
: : : replacing an existing file).
: : :
: : : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is critical
: : : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply
: deactivating
: : : it (via msconfig).
: : :
: : : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and
KB891711.EXE?
: : :
: : : Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe mode to
: : : properly install it) ?
: : :
: : : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: : :
: : : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
: :
: :
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