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Old February 17th 05, 04:16 AM
PCR
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I'm sure that still leaves a hefty number of Chinese who do care. Well,
seems you know the procedure well enough, though. So, I am off to
Peking.

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
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| The next time I have to reinstall tshoot.inf the box will ask me to
insert
| the disk but I will say "ha ha", hit search or whatever that offering
in the
| box is called, and navigate instead to the cab file (same as yours) on
E
| Drive where bnts.dll is located and install it. It will be a simpler
| operation for others to do than for me, but to paraphrase John Wooden
after
| he finally lost a basketball game, "700 million Chinese couldn't care
less"
| (this was before Windows 98, however).
|
| PCR wrote:
| Well... that's interesting... that "SourcePath" already is
| "C:\Windows\Options\Cabs", yet you were asked for a disk, after you
(I
| presume) R-Clkd Tshoot.inf & selected "Install". I don't know what's
| going on, then. I do know, "bnts.dll" is indeed inside one of those
| .cab's, WIN98_60.CAB (for Win98SE).
|
| You seem hesitant to cause damage to your machine. Therefore, I am
| hesitant to expend much more brainpower on this, especially as my
| first thought (SourcePath) wasn't right. Well, you earlier posted...
|
| .....Quote..........
| But a question: When I click Tshoot.inf I get a message to insert
the
| Windows disk. To see what was going on I clicked skip, I believe it
| was, and
| the new box said failed to find bnts.dll. So I reinstalled
Tshoot.inf
| again
| but this time when prompted to insert the disk navigated to bnts.dll
| (from
| where I store .cab files on the hard drive) and that took care of
| things.
| But my question is, is this normal procedure or is bnts.dll supposed
| to be
| integrated seamlessly into the install process?
| .....Unquote.......
|
| I see now, you "navigated to bnts.dll (from where I store .cab
files
| on the hard drive)". What does that mean? Can it be you navigated to
| the actual file, which is in C:\WINDOWS\HELP? To the HELP folder? (I
| was thinking you navigated to the folder that holds your .cab's,
| which you say is C:\Windows\Options\Cabs.)
|
| Anyway, it was seamless for me. I was never asked a thing.
|
|
| PCR - I'm in over my head on the knowledge front here, but hey why
| sweat minor details like that. I'll try intuition instead, to wit:
| My white box also has "C:\Windows\Options\Cabs" listed across from
| ... Setup SourcePath in the registry, but a *.CAB file search of
| course comes up with totally different CAB files in C than those
| copied to E drive from the disk. So if "C:\Windows\Options\Cabs" is
| shorthand for 'search C drive first and if you don't find anything
| tell user to put in OS disk', I'm not sure that substituting the
| path to the relocated cabs on E is a good idea because what if what
| you actually need is on C drive?
|
| I get a perverse pleasure out of trying out some of this esoterica
| but on this one I don't feel as if I know enough of the story yet.
|
| PCR wrote:
| Well, each of the keys I posted was preset by Compaq with
| "C:\Windows\Options\Cabs", where they had installed them. After
| moving "Options\Cabs" to "E:\", I changed them all. They seem to
| have remained so, even after at least two IE6 cumulatives have
been
| installed.
|
| You have this...?...
|
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\SysDM
| SearchLocation "D"
|
| ...without even a colon? (Well, frankly, I don't know what that
one
| is.) One thing: It doesn't appear to be my "save location default
&
| Windows Explorer open default", having what I do in there.
|
| Anyway, probably, you should...
|
| HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup
| SourcePath "E:\OPTIONS\cabs\"
|
| ...BUT... substitute YOUR Path there. That's really the one.
|
| Actually my question was really more to do with whether the
install
| process for tshoot.inf was automatic once you click the file, or
| whether you had to go out and get bnts.dll from any location, CD
or
| hard drive.
|
| I said: "bnts.dll" was not mentioned when I installed Tshoot.inf.
No
| file/folder was asked for. It knew where to go.
|
| Another thing: "Tshoot.inf" must be R-Clicked (not L-Clicked), &
| "Install" selected. Are you just clicking it?
|
|
| Think I'll take a flyer on this one. You show a couple of things
a
| little different compared to what I see in my registry, for
| instance, "OLSSrcPath" doesn't exist, and "SearchLocation" has
the
| entry "D" (period), which is my save location default & Windows
| Explorer open default, and if they are related to this I don't
want
| to have to re-associate them, not that it can't be done. Actually
| my question was really more to do with whether the install
process
| for tshoot.inf was automatic once you click the file, or whether
| you had to go out and get bnts.dll from any location, CD or hard
| drive. (I used to express things clearly but then I read the
| explanations at WU for the latest critical updates and I fear
they
| did a number on me).
|
| PCR wrote:
| It was seamless for me. I was never asked for a disk. Probably,
| your Registry does not know you have copied your Installation CD
| to the hard drive. Next time you install an .inf that does
that...
|
| Click OK to the requestor stating that a disk is required.
Another
| requestor will appear & allow you to locate the folder that has
| your Windows .cab files.
|
| For me, that always was "C:\Windows\Options\CABS", but recently
I
| have moved them. I changed all of the following manually, after
| moving the OPTIONS folder to E:\...
|
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\SysDM
| SearchLocation "E:\OPTIONS\cabs"
|
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup
| CommandLine "/T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=E:\OPTIONS\cabs /IS /IW
| /IQ /ID /IV /IZ /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
| OLSSrcPath "E:\OPTIONS\cabs\OLS"
| SourcePath "E:\OPTIONS\cabs\"
|
|
| Yes!
| Change epitaph to "Neglected To Follow Instructions".
|
| But a question: When I click Tshoot.inf I get a message to
insert
| the Windows disk. To see what was going on I clicked skip, I
| believe it was, and the new box said failed to find bnts.dll.
So
| I reinstalled Tshoot.inf again but this time when prompted to
| insert the disk navigated to bnts.dll (from where I store .cab
| files on the hard drive) and that took care of things. But my
| question is, is this normal procedure or is bnts.dll supposed
to
| be integrated seamlessly into the install process?
|
| PCR wrote:
| I'm sure lots of popular music was stolen off classical music.
| They wait for copyrights to expire. That is a fitting epitaph
| for many of us: "It Is Now Safe To Turn Off Your Computer".
|
| Anyway, did you...?...
|
| "START button, Find, F&F, Tshoot.inf"
| R-Clk it & select "Install"
|
| That must be done once per IE cumulative, if you want your
| Troubleshooters. After that, either use my .reg's or Dundat's
| program. Of course, the install of Tshoot.inf could be
exposing
| one to a vulnerability. Those .reg's only play with a kill
bit,
| & likely do not undo the install. So, really you may wish to
| content yourself with...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/tshoot
| ...which also is the Troubleshooters.
|
|
| * Re Bindar Dundat: "Been there, done that" (alignment of
| planets, or just good writers?)
| * If you decide to spring for the Chausson you'll wind up
| detesting Richard Rogers, who lifted the melody for "Victory
at
| Sea", note for note, like a pirate. Made a career of doing
| stuff like that. * And I suppose I should also mention that
I
| couldn't get the Dundat Workaround to work this time. I did
it
| two ways. First I downloaded the patches and then reinstalled
| the workaround over itself. When that didn't work, I
reverted,
| deleted TShoot.exe, redownloaded, then installed TShoot anew,
| but that didn't work either. This is not the worst Windows
| problem I've ever had, in fact it's a relatively small one,
but
| it's annoying that I couldn't get this thing to work beyond
the
| initial installation.
|
| So I'm at a four-way crossroads: Updates with no
Troubleshooter
| (not the worst thing that could happen), Troubleshooter with
no
| updates (like 95% of the users, I'd bet), do the registry
hacks
| (for more advanced users but "been there done that" enough to
| probably get through it) and, my preference, keep trying
until
| TShoot.exe works. On my tombstone will be inscribed the NT4
| chestnut: "It Is Now Safe To Turn Off Your Computer", if I
can
| work out the intellectual property issues with Microsoft.
|
| \PCR wrote:
| Well, careful what you say. It is reported Dundat went on a
| sea voyage, & no one has seen him since in his original
form.
| (Oh, I see, it was YOU
| I last posted this to.)...
|
| From...
| The Lied and Art Song Texts Page
|
| ...snip
|
|