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Old May 10th 10, 02:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Default Update - Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Community

Noel Paton wrote:

I suggest that you learn to read lawyerese


I suggest you quote specific statements that I make and refute
them directly, instead of sweeping them under the carpet.


- which is EXACTLY what you just did.


But you did it first. It was you that didn't respond to the material
and points that I made in my previous post.

And I did not sweep your statements under the carpet:

There is a world of difference between "made it available to
anyone on the Usenet." and actually being 'part of Usenet'.


The continuance of discussing that point is, well, pointless, because
it's a matter of opinion how to interpret Microsoft's wording and
intention, and discussing that takes away from the more relavent points
such as whether or not Microsoft was operating a true NNTP server, and
if posts made to that server were being "leeched" by usenet at large.
That is the point that you don't want to discuss, because I've posted
overwhelming evidence that your point of view or your understanding is
wrong.

I only have so much breath to waste on morons - you just exhausted
it for a month or two.


If you choose to surrender this argument over to me, that's ok, I
understand. It's hard to argue when you've been proven wrong.

I will again post your thesis, and my counter-argument which you have
not responded to:

To be part of Usenet, it would have had to acknowledged the UseNet
protocols - which it never has done, AFAIK. It would also have
needed to host other groups, which it certainly never has done.


In order for posts made via the Microsoft servers to appear on other
news servers world-wide, Microsoft *must* arrange for peering with other
servers. If such an arrangement was not in place, then I would not be
able to see your post on the NNTP server I use (aioe.org).

And you would not be able to see my reply to you, the one you are
reading right now, unless the peering was bi-directional. And none of
this could happen unless microsoft operated their own NNTP server, that
fully impliments usenet NNTP message transport protocals. Further more,
you can use any newsreader to access microsoft's nntp server directly,
to read and post messages.

It would also have needed to host other groups, which it certainly
never has done.


Anyone operating a usenet server can choose which newsgroups he will
carry on his server. It's not uncommon for smaller operators to not
carry the binary groups, for example, because of the bandwidth those
groups consume, and the hard drive space needed for decent retention.