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Old September 5th 04, 07:32 PM
George
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Uninstalled the Norton Anti-Virus program and the only
long delays remaining (72.33 secs. total) are for the many
entries which occur before TSRQuery is run. Here is a copy
of the excerpted list of entries from the end of the
detailed Bootlog Analysis Report run after uninstalling
Norton Anti-virus and rebooting:

12:22:26 0.06 INITCOMPLETE = VFBACKUP
12:22:26 0.00 INITCOMPLETESUCCESS = VFBACKUP
12:22:26 0.06 INITCOMPLETE = SHELL
12:22:26 0.00 INITCOMPLETESUCCESS = SHELL
12:22:26 0.00 Initializing KERNEL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = system.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = system.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = keyboard.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = keyboard.drv (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = mouse.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = mouse.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = trid_pci.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = DIBENG.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = DIBENG.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = trid_pci.drv (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = mmsound.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = mmsound.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = comm.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = comm.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = gdi.exe (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = GDI.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgasys.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgasys.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgafix.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgafix.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgaoem.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\vgaoem.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = gdi.exe (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = user.exe (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = DDEML.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = DDEML.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = USER.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = COOL.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = COOL.DLL (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = KEYBOARD (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = KEYBOARD (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = Mouse (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Status = Mouse driver installed (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = Mouse (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = DISPLAY.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = DISPLAY.drv (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = DISPLAY (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = Display Resources (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = Display Resources (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\serife.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\sserife.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\coure.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\symbole.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\smalle.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_czec.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_czec.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_engl.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_engl.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_fren.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_fren.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_germ.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_germ.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_ital.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_ital.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_span.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_span.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_swed.fon
(time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\fonts\wst_swed.fon (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = user.exe (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadStart = MSGSRV32.EXE (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 LoadSuccess = MSGSRV32.EXE (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = Final USER (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = Final USER (time estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = Installable Drivers (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 InitDone = Installable Drivers (time
estimated)
12:22:26 0.00 Init = TSRQuery (time estimated)
12:22:26 72.33 InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
12:23:39 0.22 Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk
Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0B)
12:23:39 0.00 Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk
Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0B)

The questionable list of items seems to start
with "Initializing KERNEL" and ends with "InitDone =
TSRQuery." Do you know whether this is a normal sequence
for the start-up or if there is a problem which can be
corrected? Thinking of using anti-virus software called EZ
ARMOR LE by Computer Associates. Your further thoughts and
advice appreciated.


-----Original Message-----
Quoting MS MVP Richard Harper:
"TSRQuery is not to blame. There are several unlogged
actions that happen
before TSRQuery is run, so it appears to be the problem
even though it is
not. There's no good way to tell what's to blame since
the actions are not
logged."

If you didn't have the problem before and do now, then it
must come from some change
you made just prior to the experienced increase in the
boot time. Likely it is some
driver causing it. The delays due to Symantec entries I
can't help you with, as I
do not like or use their software. Were it my machine, I
would uninstall all the
Symantec/Norton software, and see if the boot delay
continues.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


wrote in message
...
Thanks Glen, the mouse load up problem is gone. Here is
the latest Delays and Failures Report from Bootlog
Analyzer:

11:50:31 9.11 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
11:50:41 0.11 LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
11:50:43 0.28 Loading Vxd = C:\WINDOWS\system\VMM32
\IFSMGR.VXD
11:50:43 0.33 Loading Vxd = C:\WINDOWS\system\VMM32
\IOS.VXD
11:50:49 3.06 LoadSuccess = vnetbios.vxd
11:50:52 2.39 Loading Vxd = C:\PROGRA~1
\SYMANTEC\SYMEVNT.386
11:50:55 0.39 Loading Vxd = dfs.vxd
11:51:09 0.06 DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
11:51:10 0.50 DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VTD
11:51:11 0.28 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN
11:51:13 0.39 Dynamic load device bios.vxd
11:51:18 0.83 Dynamic load device pci.vxd
11:51:30 0.28 DEVICEINIT = IOS
11:51:31 0.44 Dynamic load device
C:\WINDOWS\system\IOSUBSYS\diskvsd.vxd
11:51:33 2.50 Dynamic load device
C:\WINDOWS\system\IOSUBSYS\acbhlpr.vxd
11:51:39 0.83 Started Standard Serial Mouse
(ROOT\*PNP0F0C\0000)
11:51:41 0.61 DEVICEINIT = NDIS
11:51:46 3.89 Dynamic load device vdhcp.386
11:51:58 0.33 Initing hsflop.pdr
11:51:58 0.44 Initing esdi_506.pdr
11:51:59 0.67 Initing esdi_506.pdr
11:51:59 0.83 Init Success esdi_506.pdr
11:52:07 0.11 INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD
11:52:11 0.33 Dynamic load success
C:\WINDOWS\system\serial.vxd
11:52:12 0.28 Enumerated Printer Port (LPT1)
(BIOS\*PNP0400\0C)
11:52:14 0.28 Dynamic load device dsound.vxd
11:52:15 1.11 Dynamic load success dsound.vxd
11:52:16 0.33 Dynamic load device vjoyd.vxd
11:52:18 7.00 INITCOMPLETE = NAVAP
11:52:25 4.28 Dynamic load device C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVEX15.VXD
11:52:29 3.11 Dynamic load device C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVENG.VXD
11:52:32 125.89 Dynamic load success C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVENG.VXD
11:54:38 0.28 INITCOMPLETESUCCESS = NAVAP
11:54:45 99.50 InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
11:56:25 0.83 Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk
Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0B)

The two delays that stick out are, of course, the Norton
(Symantec) anti-virus program stuff and the TSRQuery
items.
Any further help to hone in on those two delay places
will
be appreciated.


-----Original Message-----
My Logitech plugs into a serial port. What I did to
replace with a standard mouse driver was this:
StartSettingsC. PanelSystemDevice Manager
TabMouseHi-
lite MouseDriver TabUpdate Driver buttonNext
buttonSelected Search for Better Driver...etc.
After the search, a better MS driver was found and I
okayed its installation.

I will uninstall Logitech mouse and reboot. Thanks for
the
explanation - sorry didn't get it the first time!

-----Original Message-----
You say you replaced the Logitech mouse driver with a
standard mouse driver. Do you
have a serial mouse or a PS/2 mouse? The driver you
added is "Standard Serial
Mouse", which is only for a serial mouse, and you are
still loading the Logitech
driver.....Loading Vxd = LMOUSE.VXD

What I meant for you to try is to remove (uninstall)
the
Logitech mouse (not add a
mouse manually), reboot, and let Windows add its own
driver on its own.

I will see what else I can find re your delays. A lot
of
them are from Symantec
anti-virus loading, though the 8-minute time is far
too
long.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"George" wrote
in
message
...
Have never used MSBackup, so uninstalled and then
changed
file names per instruction. The tape detection has
been
disabled and it seems to be working okay so far!
Here is a copy of the new Failures and Delays Log:

14:52:30 7.28 LoadSuccess =
C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
14:52:38 0.11 LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
14:52:40 0.44 Loading Vxd =
C:\WINDOWS\system\VMM32
\IFSMGR.VXD
14:52:46 2.72 LoadSuccess = vnetbios.vxd
14:52:49 1.11 Loading Vxd = C:\PROGRA~1
\SYMANTEC\SYMEVNT.386
14:52:50 20.17 Loading Vxd = LMOUSE.VXD
14:53:11 0.61 Loading Vxd = dfs.vxd
14:53:24 0.06 DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
14:53:25 0.56 DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VTD
14:53:26 0.28 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN
14:53:33 0.78 Dynamic load device pci.vxd
14:53:44 0.39 DEVICEINIT = IOS
14:53:46 0.50 Dynamic load device
C:\WINDOWS\system\IOSUBSYS\diskvsd.vxd
14:53:48 2.33 Dynamic load device
C:\WINDOWS\system\IOSUBSYS\acbhlpr.vxd
14:53:53 0.78 Started Standard Serial Mouse
(ROOT\*PNP0F0C\0000)
14:53:56 0.50 DEVICEINIT = NDIS
14:54:01 2.11 Dynamic load device vdhcp.386
14:54:10 0.56 DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VDEF
14:54:14 2.22 INITCOMPLETE = IOS
14:54:17 10.39 INITCOMPLETESUCCESS = IOS
14:54:30 0.06 INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD
14:54:35 0.33 Dynamic load success
C:\WINDOWS\system\serial.vxd
14:54:38 2.56 Dynamic load success dsound.vxd
14:54:41 0.44 Dynamic load device vjoyd.vxd
14:54:43 7.61 INITCOMPLETE = NAVAP
14:54:50 4.61 Dynamic load device C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVEX15.VXD
14:54:55 2.50 Dynamic load device C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVENG.VXD
14:54:58 75.83 Dynamic load success C:\PROGRA~1
\COMMON~1
\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20030430.004\NAVENG.VXD
14:56:14 0.67 INITCOMPLETESUCCESS = NAVAP


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