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Old July 26th 04, 09:04 PM
Stan Hilliard
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Default Problem in Windows 98SE after changing hard drive.

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:06:01 -0400, "glee"
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"Stan Hilliard" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:59:17 -0500, Stan Hilliard
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:51:50 -0500, Stan Hilliard
wrote:

I replaced my 20 G HDD with a 80 G HDD. I copied the partitions from
the old to the new drive with Partition Magic version 6.

skipping a few steps

1) After changing drives, it took 8-10 minutes to boot off the new
drive.

2) The Partition magic "Partitioninfo" utility does not find any
errors with the C: partition. However, Partition Magic "Check for
errors" on drive C: gave this message:

Error - 993. Partition contains open files. Use the operating system
check utility.

3) Scandisk showed about 15 files with this message: (example)

C:\Windows\desktop\hhser~1\develo~1\software\sof twa~2xx&\helpfo~1'
folder cannot be opened because its MS-DOS name, including the names
of any folders it is in, is larger than 66 characters.

Most of these errors involved files in \Windows\ and \Program Files\.

By the way, Scandisk does not have any problem with those same paths
on my old drive.

So I seem to have two problems.
1) Extremely slow performance, and
2) the problem with paths.

What are these problems and how can I correct them.

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

I have learned that the reason that scandisk did not find long DOS
paths on my old drive but did on the new drive is not due to the
difference in drives.

With the new drive, I unchecked Scandisk's "automatically fix errors"
checkbox, which apparently caused it to do more checking or reporting.
With "automatically fix errors" checked, Scandisk does not notice the
long DOS paths.

Actually, this helped me to discover and fix the cause of a long-term
problem.

I have changed the new drive's jumper from "cable select" to master
(like the old drive was). That might have improved performance, but
the problem is not steady.

I still have the performance problem. The PC now performs at
normal/fast speed for a while and then it will freeze up for 20
seconds to 1 minute or more. One place that this happens is in the
start menu, where there is sometimes long delays in moving the focus
to a new item, and sometimes not!

Information:
The new HDD is a Seagate 80 G ATA100.
The old HDD is/was an IBM 20 G ATA 100.


I now don't think that the problem is slow reading of data on the new
drive. This because my new-mail folder (using Pegasus) containing
1,300 messages loads as fast as it ever did. That data is on another
partition (E on the same drive. However, as I up the Internet I got
this message:

"Disk write error
Unable to write to drive C:
Data or files may be lost"

I then copied a text file from E: to C:. It copied but it had one of
those 1 minute delays. Another delay when I deleted it from C:

Here is more information that I have discovered:

If I [cntl][alt][del] right after boot-up, there is only ONE thing in
the window -- explorer.

The performance symptom is that Windows 98SE frequently will freeze
for 20 seconds to a minute doing simple things like selecting an item
from the start menu. It takes that long just to change focus from one
menu item to another. These delays occur intermittently. When they
happen I can move the mouse cursor, but the focus doesn't move to the
item. The same thing happens selecting desktop icons -- sometimes it
works immediately and sometimes the long delay.

Stan Hilliard


Check the new drive (Seagate?) with Seagate's SeaTools diagnostics:
Seagate SeaTools:
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html

Download:
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/B7a.html
http://www.seagate.com/support/seato...toold_reg.html

Error codes:
http://www.seagate.com/support/npf/s...ror_index.html


The hard drive came with version 1.06 of SeaTools. I downloaded
version 3.0 and performed the thorough test, which took several hours.
It does not find any problems.

The problem with the Seagate DiscWizard initialize the hard drive
partitions is that it won't allow me to make two primary partitions
for dual booting. The second partition is logical and is nested in an
extended partition.

I re-built the HDD using PartitionMagic to create the two partitions
primary but this time using xcopy in a DOS window to transfer the
data.

xcopy c:\ e: /e/h/k/r/c

Now the drive tests OK with SeaTools, but when I make it the boot
drive it hangs just before starting Windows. The drive is recognized,
according to the startup screen .

As a non-boot third drive, the new drive seems to perform well.

Stan Hilliard