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Old September 5th 06, 04:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Haggis
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:56:47 -0400, "MEB" meb@not
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Then you would destroy your hard disk... has no effect whatsoever on the
new
file system /compressed and encrypted areas of the hard disk / reset
extended areas, and more than I will go into here...


I can't find any online reference that supports your views. Everything
I read about encryption, for example, suggests that it is a high level
thing and that it does not depend on the OS or filesystem. However, I
notice that Seagate will soon be releasing HDs that can do encryption
on the fly at the hardware level but that's about all I can find. Do
you have any specific URLs on this subject?

There will be a web page shortly concerning these MISHANDLED hard
drives..
do your research BEFORE responding....


MEB


AFAICT, all you need to do to reclaim an entire drive is to rewrite
the very first sector. How can any inactive disk resident data
structure prevent DOS from doing this? If DOS wants to write to CHS
0,0,1, what is there to stop it?

Would you be offended if I followed up your original post to a storage
newsgroup?

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:05:29 -0400, "MEB" meb@not

| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| IF the disk had NT5/XP NTFS used on it:
|
| BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT TO REMOVE XP NTFS with a DOS program or using ANY
DOS
| techniques;;;;
|
| DON'T!!!! YOU WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL unless you are an expert at doing
so,
| AND have the proper tools for disk manipulation and recovery!!!
|
| DO NOT USE OLD DOS TECHNIQUES TO ATTEMPT REMOVAL OF NT5/XP NTFS.
| This information is faulty and does not fully address the variables
| associated with the NT5 - XP NTFS file system: it's encryption and
| compression, hidden directories/folders, partitions (which the system
| creates automatically) within partitions, "on the fly" CHS changes, and
| other factors.
|
| I would rewrite the MBR using ...
|
| fdisk /mbr
|
| ... and then delete and recreate the partition table using standard
| DOS fdisk procedures.
|
| I can't see any problem with this, unless the supplier of the PC has
| made some peculiar changes to the BIOS which render sections of the
| disc invisible. But that wouldn't be an NTFS issue.
|
| - Franc Zabkar


- Franc Zabkar
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interesting..
I've used fdisk to remove "non-dos" partitions with no problems (XP/NT/2000)
.....