Apple is open source now? Hard to believe.

"Dan" wrote in message
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Sure Ivan, the patch was not released in the best manner by Microsoft but
I
still give Microsoft credit for finally patching the vulnerability. If
you
or anyone else want to leave your machine unpatched without this critical
update then don't come complaining to me later on if someone connects to
your
computer and/or network because you were unpatched and makes all kinds of
changes. Remember, 98, 98SE and ME are in final support stage and last
support will be elimated on 9x machines after 30 June 2006. Sure on-line
articles and stuff will still be available but there will be no more
critical
updates unless something radical changes at Microsoft. Remember,
Microsoft
has insisted on choosing the NT line and I feel that decision is flawed
and I
have tried to change them as best as I can but the hope for the future
seems
to belong to Linux, Apple, Google, Mozilla and other open-source
companies.
Have a nice night!

"Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
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: Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I want to install
it
on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install these updates in
general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But on the
other
hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of KB891711, the
inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this patch is far
greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine. Keep in mind
that
there have been several updates this year considered "important" for
Windows
98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune pointed out, the
difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not so
significant
in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine probably *is*
vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100% secure all the
time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about not having
this
one patch installed.
:
: And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running WITHOUT
anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I decided I would
run
a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what - nothing found
other
than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important thing is being
aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the Internet.
:
: Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was, but what I do
know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in this manner,
without informing the users of the potential caveats, and apparently
without
testing in dial-up systems, etc.
:
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
...
: According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update that has as
of
now
: not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need this critical
update
: because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a way to
compromise
: all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch and have not
been
: updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers will be a
maximum of
: 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is connected to
the
: Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE" running because I
am
: sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better fix but this
is
a
: temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe while on-line.
If
: programs are not responding then discover why. People you need this
CRITICAL
: PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run with the patch
because
: of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove Ethernet cable,
USB
cable
: or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if you do not do
this
: and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just asking for your
system
: to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends although I know
a
lot
: about security on computers and weak access points and could probably
do
it
: without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is with keeping
the
: U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers to try and
get
one
: small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby, the
terriorists
and
: finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others can help you
with
: your computer problems. Have a nice day!
:
: "98 Guy" wrote in message
...
: :
: : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: :
: : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: :
: : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past week)
: : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
: : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the
background.
: : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any such
update
: : or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of simply
: : replacing an existing file).
: :
: : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is critical
: : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply
deactivating
: : it (via msconfig).
: :
: : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and KB891711.EXE?
: :
: : Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe mode to
: : properly install it) ?
: :
: : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: :
: : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
:
: