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Old March 13th 05, 04:52 AM
Dan
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Read the discussion boards and you will see that it is causing havoc with
some user's machines and associated software and/or hardware. For some of
the users baddies are definately involved but definately not with all the
users.

"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
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: Whata's the downside of this update?
:
: "Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
: ...
: Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I want to install
: it on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install these updates in
: general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But on the other
: hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of KB891711, the
: inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this patch is far
: greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine. Keep in mind
that
: there have been several updates this year considered "important" for
Windows
: 98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune pointed out, the
: difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not so
significant
: in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine probably *is*
: vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100% secure all the
: time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about not having this
: one patch installed.
:
: And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running WITHOUT
: anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I decided I would
run
: a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what - nothing found
other
: than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important thing is being
: aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the Internet.
:
: Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was, but what I do
: know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in this manner,
: without informing the users of the potential caveats, and apparently
without
: testing in dial-up systems, etc.
:
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update that has as
: of now
: not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need this critical
: update
: because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a way to
: compromise
: all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch and have not
: been
: updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers will be a
: maximum of
: 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is connected to
the
: Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE" running because I
: am
: sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better fix but this
is
: a
: temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe while on-line.
: If
: programs are not responding then discover why. People you need this
: CRITICAL
: PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run with the patch
: because
: of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove Ethernet cable, USB
: cable
: or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if you do not do
: this
: and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just asking for your
: system
: to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends although I know
a
: lot
: about security on computers and weak access points and could probably
do
: it
: without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is with keeping
the
: U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers to try and
get
: one
: small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby, the
: terriorists and
: finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others can help you
: with
: your computer problems. Have a nice day!
:
: "98 Guy" wrote in message
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: :
: : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: :
: : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: :
: : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past week)
: : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
: : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the background.
: : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any such
update
: : or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of simply
: : replacing an existing file).
: :
: : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is critical
: : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply
deactivating
: : it (via msconfig).
: :
: : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and KB891711.EXE?
: :
: : Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe mode to
: : properly install it) ?
: :
: : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: :
: : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
:
:
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