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Elizabeth March 1st 06 11:22 PM

After June?
 
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth

philo March 1st 06 11:32 PM

After June?
 

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?



Win98 will keep on working fine
just be sure to keep your virus checker updated



Bill in Co. March 1st 06 11:43 PM

After June?
 
Elizabeth wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet?


Absolutely not.

Will I need a new operating system?


Nope. Not yet, anyways.

Ten years from now, who knows, but even then, I'm not so sure. Of course
we probably won't be able to find a whole bunch of *new* software that runs
on it at that time, but .. C'est La Vie.

Is there any recourse?


Sure - keep on chuggin with Win98 like the rest of us (or the rest of us
that are still left doing that). :-)

Probably someday we will all eventually be on WinXP or Longhorn, or whatever
the latest thing is, but that's a ways off (at least for me). What I've
got now (Win98SE, and DOS bootup capability), satifies my needs ..
purrrfectly.



Gary S. Terhune March 1st 06 11:44 PM

After June?
 
Windows 98 is already a bit crippled when it comes to protective
applications -- the ones that keep you safe while surfing the internet. That
situation is going to get worse as time goes by, and I expect that by
sometime next year very few modern protective applications will support
Win9x systems at all. This is important because the internet and the
associated applications (functional or protective) are where the major
advancements in technology are occurring on a daily or weekly basis, and as
they outgrow Win9x, you will get less functionality and almost *no* decent
safety for that platform.

The only real effect the June date has is that any further security issues
that are subsequently discovered, whether in Windows Media Player, Internet
Explorer, or in the core operating files, will not be fixed. But the
obsolescence of Win9x is already a fact, one that is only going to get worse
as the months pass. I strongly recommend that 9x users cease to spend *any*
more money on their systems and instead buy a new one. And, no, I would not
recommend waiting until Windows Vista is ready for market. I don't think
that's going to be soon enough. Get a good machine now and then upgrade to
Vista if and when it becomes attractive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth




PCR March 2nd 06 12:33 AM

After June?
 
If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker & firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a peep out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine now.

JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know is good.

Would you like my list of full system backup apps?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Elizabeth" wrote in message ...
| I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.
|
| After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
| updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
| need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?
|
| Beth

Don/Gen March 2nd 06 02:50 AM

After June?
 
PCR,

I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a
back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can
always be used :-)

Don

"PCR" wrote in message
...
If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker &
firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it
crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive
today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a peep
out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal
Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine now.

JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it
well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the
monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know is
good.

Would you like my list of full system backup apps?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
| I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.
|
| After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
| updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
| need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?
|
| Beth



Bill in Co. March 2nd 06 06:14 AM

After June?
 
The bottom line is that you can have all the patches you want, but true
security (only) "comes from within". (Meaning, you have to be diligent).

Don/Gen wrote:
PCR,

I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a
back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can
always be used :-)

Don

"PCR" wrote in message
...
If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker &
firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it
crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive
today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a

peep
out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal
Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine

now.

JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it
well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the
monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know

is
good.

Would you like my list of full system backup apps?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth




Jonny March 2nd 06 12:17 PM

After June?
 
Been watching MS's behavior since 95. The pattern seems to be release the
new OS to the public market. Followed by bug fixes over a 1-2 year period
in general. Jump on the new OS bandwagon around the end of that period
seems smartest thing to do, in my opinion. Especially if a service pack(s)
which changes some of the base OS system files is involved.
--
Jonny
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Windows 98 is already a bit crippled when it comes to protective
applications -- the ones that keep you safe while surfing the internet.
That
situation is going to get worse as time goes by, and I expect that by
sometime next year very few modern protective applications will support
Win9x systems at all. This is important because the internet and the
associated applications (functional or protective) are where the major
advancements in technology are occurring on a daily or weekly basis, and
as
they outgrow Win9x, you will get less functionality and almost *no* decent
safety for that platform.

The only real effect the June date has is that any further security issues
that are subsequently discovered, whether in Windows Media Player,
Internet
Explorer, or in the core operating files, will not be fixed. But the
obsolescence of Win9x is already a fact, one that is only going to get
worse
as the months pass. I strongly recommend that 9x users cease to spend
*any*
more money on their systems and instead buy a new one. And, no, I would
not
recommend waiting until Windows Vista is ready for market. I don't think
that's going to be soon enough. Get a good machine now and then upgrade to
Vista if and when it becomes attractive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth






Gary S. Terhune March 2nd 06 03:17 PM

After June?
 
The cycle has been greatly stretched over the last few years. There was a
new desktop/workstation OS release coming out almost every year between 95
and 2001, with only two service packs since then (though there's been lots
of activity on the server side.) My guess is that Vista *might* debut this
year, but more likely next. Just based upon history, I probably wouldn't
want it on a production machine before ~2008/09. However, the paradigm may
be changing, and Vista may solve enough of the security issues that are
inherent in WinXP to make it more attractive at an earlier date. Hard for me
to say, since I've not been able to participate in betas (lack of time and
hardware.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Jonny" wrote in message
...
Been watching MS's behavior since 95. The pattern seems to be release the
new OS to the public market. Followed by bug fixes over a 1-2 year period
in general. Jump on the new OS bandwagon around the end of that period
seems smartest thing to do, in my opinion. Especially if a service

pack(s)
which changes some of the base OS system files is involved.
--
Jonny
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Windows 98 is already a bit crippled when it comes to protective
applications -- the ones that keep you safe while surfing the internet.
That
situation is going to get worse as time goes by, and I expect that by
sometime next year very few modern protective applications will support
Win9x systems at all. This is important because the internet and the
associated applications (functional or protective) are where the major
advancements in technology are occurring on a daily or weekly basis, and
as
they outgrow Win9x, you will get less functionality and almost *no*

decent
safety for that platform.

The only real effect the June date has is that any further security

issues
that are subsequently discovered, whether in Windows Media Player,
Internet
Explorer, or in the core operating files, will not be fixed. But the
obsolescence of Win9x is already a fact, one that is only going to get
worse
as the months pass. I strongly recommend that 9x users cease to spend
*any*
more money on their systems and instead buy a new one. And, no, I would
not
recommend waiting until Windows Vista is ready for market. I don't think
that's going to be soon enough. Get a good machine now and then upgrade

to
Vista if and when it becomes attractive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth








PCR March 2nd 06 07:37 PM

After June?
 
I HOPE you keep those computers in separate bedrooms! But, right, I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Don/Gen" wrote in message ...
| PCR,
|
| I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a
| back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can
| always be used :-)
|
| Don
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker &
| firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it
| crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive
| today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a peep
| out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal
| Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine now.
|
| JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it
| well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the
| monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know is
| good.
|
| Would you like my list of full system backup apps?
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Elizabeth" wrote in message
| ...
| | I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.
| |
| | After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
| | updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
| | need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?
| |
| | Beth
|
|


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