Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

Hi,

I use FF (FireFox) 3.6 (had an issue with FF4.0) and KernelEx on my
Win98se computer.

Not long ago, I installed AR6 (Adobe Reader 6) after I removed V5. I
also installed IE 5.5 before installing AR6.

Ever since I installed AR6, when I launch FF, most of the time it
automatically goes to Mozilla's "Check Your Plugins" page. This never
happened before.

Note: I have all automatic updates unchecked in FF and FF launches to
"Show a Blank Page" ("General" options) .

Any ideas on what may be the cause of this "Check Your Plugins"
nuisance?

Thank You in advance, John

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

wrote:

Ever since I installed AR6, when I launch FF, most of the time it
automatically goes to Mozilla's "Check Your Plugins" page. This
never happened before.

Any ideas on what may be the cause of this "Check Your Plugins"
nuisance?

Couple ideas.

In Firefox, enter about:config in the address bar and hit enter.

Search for this:

plugins.update.url

If you have such an entry, take note of it's value. It might be this:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

If it's not that, then whatever it is, post it here.

I don't have (plugins.update.url) in my version of firefox (version 2)
but apparently it exists.

Now you can either do two things:

a) change the url to something else, like "google.com" - or just
make it blank.

b) leave it alone, and create an entry in your HOSTS file to
effectively null out the url. For example, if the value is
what I mentioned above, then create this line in your hosts file:

127.0.0.1 www.mozilla.org

That will prevent your computer from being able to visit www.mozilla.org
from any browser or application, but it should stop the plugin-check
behavior you're seeing. But deleting the entry on the about:config page
is probably the better option.

The behavior you're seeing is not being caused by Adobe Reader - this is
a Firefox issue.

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

wrote in message ...
Hi,

I use FF (FireFox) 3.6 (had an issue with FF4.0) and KernelEx on my
Win98se computer.

Not long ago, I installed AR6 (Adobe Reader 6) after I removed V5. I
also installed IE 5.5 before installing AR6.

Ever since I installed AR6, when I launch FF, most of the time it
automatically goes to Mozilla's "Check Your Plugins" page. This never
happened before.

Note: I have all automatic updates unchecked in FF and FF launches to
"Show a Blank Page" ("General" options) .

Any ideas on what may be the cause of this "Check Your Plugins"
nuisance?

Here's what I found a while back...................

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin_scanning

* To prevent scanning the Netscape Navigator 4.x directory for
plugins, add a new boolean preference named
plugin.scan.4xPluginFolder and set the value to "false".

* To prevent scanning the directories specified in the Windows
registry for PLIDs, modify the plugin.scan.plid.all preference
value from "true" to "false". Plugins in this category include
RealPlayer, as well as Flash starting with version 9.0 r45 [1].

* To prevent scanning the Quicktime, SunJRE, WindowsMediaPlayer or
Acrobat installation directories, find the related preference and
increase the value of the minimum version to a number greater than
the version you have installed. For example:
- To stop the plugin scan for Java plugins, modify the value of the
preference plugin.scan.SunJRE from "1.3" to 1.9
- To stop the Windows Media Player plugin scan, modify the value of
the preference plugin.scan.WindowsMediaPlayer from "7.0" to
19.0


And here's how it worked for me (copy of my post follows).............

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/938821

I'm using 3.6.24, and I got that same Plugin Check tab (after using
it for a looooong time) after I decided to re-enable ConvertHelper
for DownloadHelper.

It let me know that it had disabled my outdated Java. It also
complained that my Shockwave Flash was "vulnerable", VLC Multimedia
Plugin was "unknown", and Adobe Acrobat was "outdated".

Like many, I can't update the plugins, because I'm already using the
latest versions supported by my system.

I don't know what hidden settings got changed, and I tried all the
usual suggestions here and on the InterWeb, until I finally got
to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin_scanning

As suggested there, I went into about:config and changed:
plugin.scan.plid.all from "true" to "false"

Closed and restarted; it still complained about Java and Acrobat.

Went into about:config again, changed:
plugin.scan.Acrobat from "5.0" to "9"

Closed and restarted.... ONLY MY HOME PAGE! YAAAAY!!!!!

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

Sanity Clause wrote:

Any ideas on what may be the cause of this "Check Your Plugins"
nuisance?

Here's what I found a while back...................

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin_scanning

(etc)

Preventing plugun scanning will (I think) disable the use of the plugins
in Firefox.

I could be wrong about this, but that's what I think you accomplish when
you disable plugin scanning.

Went into about:config again, changed:
plugin.scan.Acrobat from "5.0" to "9"

Closed and restarted.... ONLY MY HOME PAGE! YAAAAY!!!!!

I believe that particular change will result in Firefox NOT opening
Acrobat Reader (AR) if the installed version of AR is less than 9. So
in effect you disable AR with that setting if you have AR version 6.

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

"98 Guy" wrote:

Sanity Clause wrote:

Here's what I found a while back...................

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin_scanning

Preventing plugun scanning will (I think) disable the use of the plugins
in Firefox.

Nope.

Went into about:config again, changed:
plugin.scan.Acrobat from "5.0" to "9"

I believe that particular change will result in Firefox NOT opening
Acrobat Reader (AR) if the installed version of AR is less than 9. So
in effect you disable AR with that setting if you have AR version 6.

I do indeed have version 6.0.6.401, and PDFs open just fine (I tested) either
*in* Firefox, in an external "instance" of AR, or even in Foxit.

Flash (ver 10.1.102.64) is also working fine (I often visit Youtube and others).

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

Sanity Clause wrote:

I do indeed have version 6.0.6.401, and PDFs open just fine
(I tested) either *in* Firefox, in an external "instance"
of AR, or even in Foxit.

What does that have to do with the problem that jaugustine had?

Flash (ver 10.1.102.64) is also working fine (I often visit Youtube
and others).

You're way behind the times.

I have flash version 11.6.602.171 installed on my win-98 systems.

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

"98 Guy" wrote:

What does that have to do with the problem that jaugustine had?

You claimed that the settings I used would disable everything.
They don't.

And since jaugustine and I are both using 3.6x, the options I suggested
*may* work better than those for..... "my version of firefox (version 2)",
without restricting access to Mozillla.com "from any browser or application".

Flash (ver 10.1.102.64) is also working fine

You're way behind the times.
I have flash version 11.6.602.171 installed on my win-98 systems.

Well, aren't you special.

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

Sanity Clause wrote:

Preventing plugun scanning will (I think) disable the use of the
plugins in Firefox.

Nope.

Yup.

You say no, but you really haven't disabled plugin scanning, so you
wouldn't know.

If you set plugin.scan.plid.all to false, then you'd be disabling plugin
scanning, and then you'd see that none of your plugins are available /
functional.

plugin.scan.Acrobat, plugin.scan.Quicktime and
plugin.scan.WindowsMediaPlayer are the minimum versions that Firefox
will accept and use. Versions older than that will not be used and will
not show up in the Add-ons Manager, Plugins category.

changed plugin.scan.Acrobat from "5.0" to "9"

I believe that particular change will result in Firefox NOT
opening Acrobat Reader (AR) if the installed version of AR
is less than 9. So in effect you disable AR with that setting
if you have AR version 6.

I do indeed have version 6.0.6.401, and PDFs open just fine
(I tested) either *in* Firefox, in an external "instance"
of AR, or even in Foxit.

Changing plugin.scan.Acrobat to something higher than 6 has nothing to
do with whether or not you can open PDF files in Acrobat Reader or any
other PDF reader.

That setting only controls how (or if) Acrobat Reader is opened within
the browser window when the browser encounters PDF material on a web
page. If you have your browser configured so that it asks you what to
do with .PDF files (ie - save or open) then the setting
plugin.scan.Acrobat has no effect on that behavior. If the browser is
set to automatically open and display PDF files without asking you, then
that setting becomes relevant.

Adobe Reader V6 Side Effect
 

"98 Guy" wrote:

Preventing plugun scanning will (I think) disable the use of the
plugins in Firefox.
Nope.
Yup.
If you set plugin.scan.plid.all to false, then you'd be disabling plugin
scanning, and then you'd see that none of your plugins are available /
functional.

I could have sworn (SunOverBeach!) that plid.all WAS set to false.
Apparently it wasn't. I must have changed it back and not made a note.

I humbly bow to your Everlasting Magnificence, O Great and Powerful Wizard.

Looking through my entire about:config list, I found a number of "User Set"
entries that may have done what I thought plid did (or didn't), including.....

plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin; true
extensions.update.enabled; false
extensions.update.notifyUser; false

As for the plugin.scan.Acrobat value, I changed it back to 5, and the
dreaded Plugin Check page popped up on a restart, bitching about:

Shockwave Flash - vulnerable
Adobe Acrobat - vulnerable
VLC Multimedia Plugin - unknown

Back to 9, no more nag page.

Not bowing *quite* as low as before, but don't worry, you're still special. :-)

jaugustine in Post 1 stated;
"I use FF (FireFox) 3.6" ... "on my Win98se computer."
"...I installed AR6 (Adobe Reader 6) after I removed V5" ...
"Ever since I installed AR6, when I launch FF, most of the time it automatically
goes to Mozilla's 'Check Your Plugins' page. This never happened before.
Note: I have all automatic updates unchecked in FF and FF"[-is set to]"launches to
'Show a Blank Page' ('General" options')."[-but instead it launches to Update Plugins.]
"Any ideas on what may be the cause of this 'Check Your Plugins' nuisance?"

Much posting then took place with various discussion/advice actions, such as;
@Sanity Clause said;
"I went into about:config and changed: plugin.scan.plid.all from "true" to "false"
"Closed and restarted; it still complained about Java and Acrobat."
@98 Guy said;
"change the url"[i.e. plugins.update.url]"to something else, like 'google.com' - or
just make it blank."

Gentlemen, may I suggest that the problem is NOT that 'FF launches and scans for plug-
ins', but RATHER THAT 'FF launches and scans for plug-ins AND THEN attempts to go into
an UPDATE of that 'plug-in/App' (annoyingly showing an app's update splash dialog)'.
FF scanning for App plug-ins does not 'per se' cause updating behaviour (except in
the specific case of a plug-in being deliberately designed to trigger updating, an
example of that being the 'Google Update plugin').
Instead of suggesting to Disable scanning Plug-in's OR Misdirect FF Plug-in update URL
OR Disable Specific Plug-in Scanning OR Misrepresent Plug-in/App Installed Version,
firstly take a moment to }think{ - jaugustine correctly disabled updating in FF's Tools/
Options/Advanced/Update 'installed Add-ons' dialog. However the OP did not state that
updating had been disabled in Adobe's dialog's (relevantly);
Adobe Reader's Edit/Preferences/Startup 'Show Messages and Automatically Update' (and
'Display Splash Screen'), & Adobe Reader's Edit/Preferences/Updates 'Show Auto-Update
Dialog At Startup' (and 'Display Notification Dialog at Startup').
[+EDIT: I'm assuming the OP checked for any existing Adobe listings in FF's AddOns dialog,
and if there was any option regarding Updating, then unchecked such.]
Given that the annoying update behaviour began after an (initial) installation of AR6
(when the default settings would be set to auto update), the FIRST ACTION to take is
to deselect auto update settings in Adobe App. (Note; I assume the update settings in
Adobe cause the FF plug-in to set a '[nonvisible] autocheck update flag' within the
plug-in (after an inital launch of the Adobe App), or set a 'query Adobe main App
for update behaviour' check by the plug-in when it is loaded upon FF startup.)
In regard to other App's, check for similar settings e.g. for Java; Program Files/
Java/jre n.n.n/bin/javacpl.exe/Update (Check for Updates Automatically behaviour),
and if grayed out then check the Registry setting for Java (e.g. Step 1 (only) of);
http://sgwindowsgroup.org/blogs/pand...rough-gpo.aspx
Cheers