Desktop Icons Position
 

Hello and sorry to interrupt the flow...

I've asked this before, and never got an answer. Maybe NO ONE
knows.
All I got was links to WinTidy. I am aware of its existence, was
before, and also know of other programs which handle this
problem.

The QUESTION I would like answered - NO LINKS TO PROGRAMS WHICH
TAKE CARE OF IT PLEASE - is WHERE IN THE WORLD does Windows
store the desktop icon position information???

I have looked everywhere and I can not find it. It has to be
SOMEWHERE, right? One would think registry, but I must have
looked at every damn key and value and I can't find it.

W H E R E ???!?!
W H E R E ???!?!

Someone PLEASE tell me.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then,
consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and misery.

Desktop Icons Position
 

Adding an icon to the desktop created a change in these two keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\ Rpc\UuidPersistentData\LastTimeAllocated

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop\ViewView2

The second key looks like a good bet to me; however, there is a ton of data
listed and I don't have the inclination to try to figure it out what it
means :-)

If you are going to do any serious poking around in the registry, you need a
program like RegView: http://www.regview.com/regview/

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
Hello and sorry to interrupt the flow...

I've asked this before, and never got an answer. Maybe NO ONE
knows.
All I got was links to WinTidy. I am aware of its existence, was
before, and also know of other programs which handle this
problem.

The QUESTION I would like answered - NO LINKS TO PROGRAMS WHICH
TAKE CARE OF IT PLEASE - is WHERE IN THE WORLD does Windows
store the desktop icon position information???

I have looked everywhere and I can not find it. It has to be
SOMEWHERE, right? One would think registry, but I must have
looked at every damn key and value and I can't find it.

W H E R E ???!?!
W H E R E ???!?!

Someone PLEASE tell me.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then,
consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and misery.

Desktop Icons Position
 

"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

Adding an icon to the desktop created a change in these two
keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\ Rpc\UuidPe
rsistentData\LastTimeAllocated

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\Streams\Desktop\ViewView2

The second key looks like a good bet to me; however, there
is a ton of data listed and I don't have the inclination to
try to figure it out what it means :-)

If you are going to do any serious poking around in the
registry, you need a program like RegView:
http://www.regview.com/regview/


Thank you for your reply.

I use 95B and 98SE and there is no Desktop subcategory under
Streams. Still, your reply was the nicest I have received so
far.

I'll try regview, I've thought about it before. I have two
good registry cleaners/defraggers and they usually took care
of things very well - this is just a question, not a problem.

Regards,
t.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then, consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and
misery.

Desktop Icons Position
 

RegView is a program that takes a snapshot of your registry. You can then
make changes to settings, etc., and then run RegView again. It then
compares the current registry to the snapshot and lists the changes that
were made to the registry.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

Adding an icon to the desktop created a change in these two
keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Description\Microsoft\ Rpc\UuidPe
rsistentData\LastTimeAllocated

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
Explorer\Streams\Desktop\ViewView2

The second key looks like a good bet to me; however, there
is a ton of data listed and I don't have the inclination to
try to figure it out what it means :-)

If you are going to do any serious poking around in the
registry, you need a program like RegView:
http://www.regview.com/regview/


Thank you for your reply.

I use 95B and 98SE and there is no Desktop subcategory under
Streams. Still, your reply was the nicest I have received so
far.

I'll try regview, I've thought about it before. I have two
good registry cleaners/defraggers and they usually took care
of things very well - this is just a question, not a problem.

Regards,
t.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then, consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and
misery.

Desktop Icons Position
 

"Ron Badour" wrote in
:

RegView is a program that takes a snapshot of your
registry. You can then make changes to settings, etc., and
then run RegView again. It then compares the current
registry to the snapshot and lists the changes that were
made to the registry.


Thanks again. I have DL'd it and will give it a try. I would
really like to find out. It's been bugging me for about ten
years (!).

Sounds like a useful program generally, but ever since I got
Acronis True Image free on a British computer magazine cover
disc, I have basically stopped worrying about anything going
wrong and the dozens of programs and hours of work necessary
to make it right again.

Best wishes,
t.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then, consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and
misery.

Desktop Icons Position
 

Can't remember the key offhand but it's part of a much larger collection of
binary data all stored under one value in the registry.

This info is confirmed as it is included as part of a program included in
both source and binary on included CD from a book titled Advanced Windows
Programming 3rd edition by Jeffrey Richter. Can remember checking at time.
Also seem to remember it's only "saved" when shutting down/restarting which
is why crash and reboot is flaky.

If I remember right, he uses a technique of injecting a dll into Explorer's
memery space in order to get the runtime handle for the hidden listbox used
to position the icons. He saves and restores that information in his own
key. I also seem to remember this listbox actually uses x,y coords as you'd
expect.

I normally don't include attachments but as the program is YEARS old and
included source code etc. I hope he don't mind? Copied right off my system
now as I have it setup to insure icons are as I expect upon startup. Works
under all Windows vers I've tried, 98, SE, 2000 & XP.

It only does the one save/restore, no stacking or choosing which settings to
use.

I can probably dig out the book and either scan the source or find the
original cd if neccessary and post but I'll ignore request via email.

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
Hello and sorry to interrupt the flow...

I've asked this before, and never got an answer. Maybe NO ONE
knows.
All I got was links to WinTidy. I am aware of its existence, was
before, and also know of other programs which handle this
problem.

The QUESTION I would like answered - NO LINKS TO PROGRAMS WHICH
TAKE CARE OF IT PLEASE - is WHERE IN THE WORLD does Windows
store the desktop icon position information???

I have looked everywhere and I can not find it. It has to be
SOMEWHERE, right? One would think registry, but I must have
looked at every damn key and value and I can't find it.

W H E R E ???!?!
W H E R E ???!?!

Someone PLEASE tell me.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #22
Give yourself until about 30. If things don't get rolling by
then,
consider saving yourself another 40 years of pain and misery.