Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo based
box. It freezes on the hardware detection part of the install (about
16 minutes to go). I can run it in Safe Mode but with no mouse and
would like to get past the install phase which doesn't show in Safe.
Once there, I will be able to install such drivers as I can find.

I'm doing this to play games that won't run on a newer OS and will be
triple booting it with Win2000 (no WPA) and a Linux or two.

Is there anything I can do in Safe Mode to force the install past the
hardware detection phase, e.g. kill something in the registry, a file
I haven't seen?

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

Motherboard identification is what will help us help you. What brand and
model is the motherboard?

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Hilarious" wrote in message
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I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo based
box. It freezes on the hardware detection part of the install (about
16 minutes to go). I can run it in Safe Mode but with no mouse and
would like to get past the install phase which doesn't show in Safe.
Once there, I will be able to install such drivers as I can find.

I'm doing this to play games that won't run on a newer OS and will be
triple booting it with Win2000 (no WPA) and a Linux or two.

Is there anything I can do in Safe Mode to force the install past the
hardware detection phase, e.g. kill something in the registry, a file
I haven't seen?

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

Might also try Virtual PC.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Hilarious" wrote in message
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I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo based
box. It freezes on the hardware detection part of the install (about
16 minutes to go). I can run it in Safe Mode but with no mouse and
would like to get past the install phase which doesn't show in Safe.
Once there, I will be able to install such drivers as I can find.

I'm doing this to play games that won't run on a newer OS and will be
triple booting it with Win2000 (no WPA) and a Linux or two.

Is there anything I can do in Safe Mode to force the install past the
hardware detection phase, e.g. kill something in the registry, a file
I haven't seen?

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

"Hilarious" wrote in message
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I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo based
box. It freezes on the hardware detection part of the install (about
16 minutes to go). I can run it in Safe Mode but with no mouse and
would like to get past the install phase which doesn't show in Safe.
Once there, I will be able to install such drivers as I can find.

I'm doing this to play games that won't run on a newer OS and will be
triple booting it with Win2000 (no WPA) and a Linux or two.

Is there anything I can do in Safe Mode to force the install past the
hardware detection phase, e.g. kill something in the registry, a file
I haven't seen?


Not likely to get win98 working on that machine.

Win98 can fail on some CPU's higher than 2.2ghz.

will require a vcache tweak for RAM over 512 megs...

and it's very unlikely you'd be able to get chipset drivers etc for a
machine that new.

If the games don't run on win2k you could try running them on Wine (in
Linux)


Or as suggested elsewhere, install win98 in a virtual machine

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

You might be able to force Win98 to install, if you downgrade the PCs
specifications signiifcantly.

For example, you could "under-clock" the CPU, to make it run slower, aiming
at under 2.2 GHz or so. You could reduce the RAM to something under 512
Meg. You could use parallel ATA hard drives instead of serial ATA hard
drives.

But, even if you downgrade, you might not be able to find the proper drivers
for on-board controllers, since these usually come form the motherboard
maker. Check their web site. If they list no drivers for win98, then give
up with this motherboard.

In general, you will probably have better luck getting an older motherboard,
something several years old, maybe even pre-owned or at a PC show.


"Hilarious" wrote in message
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I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo based
box. It freezes on the hardware detection part of the install (about
16 minutes to go). I can run it in Safe Mode but with no mouse and
would like to get past the install phase which doesn't show in Safe.
Once there, I will be able to install such drivers as I can find.

I'm doing this to play games that won't run on a newer OS and will be
triple booting it with Win2000 (no WPA) and a Linux or two.

Is there anything I can do in Safe Mode to force the install past the
hardware detection phase, e.g. kill something in the registry, a file
I haven't seen?

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

On 24 Feb, 10:23, "philo" wrote:
"Hilarious" wrote in message

Not likely to get win98 working on that machine.
[snip]
If the games don't run on win2k you could try running them on Wine (in
Linux)

Or as suggested elsewhere, install win98 in a virtual machine

Thanks to both of you. Quality advice is wonderful to receive!

It makes me a little sad to think that Win98 is a no-hoper on my flash
new kit (Foxconn P9657AA-8EKRS2H by the way, 1GB DDR2). I shall try
the wine route - I have failed many times along it - but not the
Virtual PC one as I am running (defunct?) W2000 not XP, etc.

I am also having troubles installing/running-live Linuxes on this new
kit as well. I thought these woes were related but can see many
other reasons why they probaly aren't.

Thanks again.

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

philo wrote:

I am currently trying to install Windows 98 onto a Core 2 Duo
based box.

Not likely to get win98 working on that machine.

Win98 can fail on some CPU's higher than 2.2ghz.

Well first of all, only the most recent (and most EXPENSIVE) core-2
duo's run at 2.2 ghz or more.

Second, the 2.2 ghz problem you speak of only applies to windows-95
and windows-98 FIRST EDITION.

Win98-second edition installs and runs fine on cpu's 2.2 ghz or
faster.

and it's very unlikely you'd be able to get chipset drivers etc for
a machine that new.

Depends on the chipset. If it's VIA, then he should have no problems
running win-98 on it.

I'm running win-98 on a motherboard with socket 775 (core, core-2
compatible) with a via chipset, Celeron-D 3.46 ghz.

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

Bob Harris wrote:

For example, you could "under-clock" the CPU, to make it run
slower, aiming at under 2.2 GHz

AAARRRGGG!!

When will you people get the message!

Windows 98se IS NOT affected by the 2.2 ghz CPU problem !!!!!!!!!

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

Hilarious wrote:

It makes me a little sad to think that Win98 is a no-hoper on my
flash new kit (Foxconn P9657AA-8EKRS2H by the way, 1GB DDR2).

What is a "flash new kit" ?

Do you mean "brand new motherboard" ?

Yes, win-98 probably will not run because it has an Intel chipset
(Intel ICH8R). Win-98 support for intel chipsets stopped at ICH5R.

Why don't you get this motherboard instead:

ASROCK 775D-VSTA

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...ual-VSTA&s=775

It's got both AGP and PCI-e slots, and I've gotten it to work great on
Win-98.

I paid something like $80 (CDN) for it.

Installing Win 98 on new kit
 

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Bob Harris wrote:

For example, you could "under-clock" the CPU, to make it run
slower, aiming at under 2.2 GHz

AAARRRGGG!!

When will you people get the message!

Windows 98se IS NOT affected by the 2.2 ghz CPU problem !!!!!!!!!

Mine runs great at 3.0GHz and 768 RAM

Galen