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William B. Lurie[_2_] April 27th 08 01:59 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Sorry to bother you with another problem.....but:
Loading 98 on a newly cleaned and formatted drive,
not Virtual PC.
Seems to install okay except that it "couldn't find"
some files so I let it skip those. It gets to where
it will boot only to Safe Mode. Booting to Normal gives
"Windows Protection Error".

Gary S. Terhune[_2_] April 27th 08 03:36 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Is this that same new machine? Like I said, it won't run Win98, NOT EVER.
The missing files are drivers files and the manufacturer of your new mobo
did not and will not ever make Win9x drivers for that board. This is what I
was trying to tell you last time until you reminded me that you were using
VPC. THAT will usually work on new hardware to run Win98. But without VPC,
forget about it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Sorry to bother you with another problem.....but:
Loading 98 on a newly cleaned and formatted drive,
not Virtual PC.
Seems to install okay except that it "couldn't find"
some files so I let it skip those. It gets to where
it will boot only to Safe Mode. Booting to Normal gives
"Windows Protection Error".



William B. Lurie[_2_] April 27th 08 03:51 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Is this that same new machine? Like I said, it won't run Win98, NOT
EVER. The missing files are drivers files and the manufacturer of your
new mobo did not and will not ever make Win9x drivers for that board.
This is what I was trying to tell you last time until you reminded me
that you were using VPC. THAT will usually work on new hardware to run
Win98. But without VPC, forget about it.

No, it isn't, Gary.....it's a friend's but you're right.
It's that same problem, and I guess I ought to "bind it
as a reminder between my eyes". BTW, I guess that also
applies to ME, which has to have the 98 running, to upgrade
from, right?

Gary S. Terhune[_2_] April 27th 08 04:30 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
1. Yes it applies to all Windows systems earlier than Win2000 (and perhaps
not even that in some cases?)

2. AFAIK, you do not have to first install Windows 98 in order to upgrade to
ME. Just start the ME setup.exe and when asked for proof of upgrade
eligibility, show it the Win98 disc.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Is this that same new machine? Like I said, it won't run Win98, NOT EVER.
The missing files are drivers files and the manufacturer of your new mobo
did not and will not ever make Win9x drivers for that board. This is what
I was trying to tell you last time until you reminded me that you were
using VPC. THAT will usually work on new hardware to run Win98. But
without VPC, forget about it.

No, it isn't, Gary.....it's a friend's but you're right.
It's that same problem, and I guess I ought to "bind it
as a reminder between my eyes". BTW, I guess that also
applies to ME, which has to have the 98 running, to upgrade
from, right?



William B. Lurie[_2_] April 27th 08 06:22 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
1. Yes it applies to all Windows systems earlier than Win2000 (and
perhaps not even that in some cases?)

2. AFAIK, you do not have to first install Windows 98 in order to
upgrade to ME. Just start the ME setup.exe and when asked for proof of
upgrade eligibility, show it the Win98 disc.

Fine. I won't be doing that for a while, AFAIK. Thank you, Gary.

Gary S. Terhune[_2_] April 27th 08 11:36 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
YW. Sorry for the bad news part.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
1. Yes it applies to all Windows systems earlier than Win2000 (and
perhaps not even that in some cases?)

2. AFAIK, you do not have to first install Windows 98 in order to upgrade
to ME. Just start the ME setup.exe and when asked for proof of upgrade
eligibility, show it the Win98 disc.

Fine. I won't be doing that for a while, AFAIK. Thank you, Gary.



William B. Lurie[_2_] April 28th 08 12:37 AM

Windows Protection Error
 
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
YW. Sorry for the bad news part.

My cousin has a Compaq Presario from WAY back, came
with 98, still has it. She uses it only for e-mail
and checking what her stocks are selling for. One
of these days she will surely scrap it, and then I'll have
a machine that runs WIN 98. Slowly.

Bad news, Gary? What is, *is*. I worked around mine
by using VPC, and solved the graphing problem by
(luckily) finding a modern program, shareware for
a pittance ($25) that works just fine.

Franc Zabkar April 28th 08 08:30 AM

Windows Protection Error
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:59:40 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Sorry to bother you with another problem.....but:
Loading 98 on a newly cleaned and formatted drive,
not Virtual PC.
Seems to install okay except that it "couldn't find"
some files so I let it skip those. It gets to where
it will boot only to Safe Mode. Booting to Normal gives
"Windows Protection Error".


Boot into logged mode and check the last entries in your bootlog.txt
file. That should tell you what the system was trying to do just
before it errored out.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

William B. Lurie[_2_] April 28th 08 01:30 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:59:40 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Sorry to bother you with another problem.....but:
Loading 98 on a newly cleaned and formatted drive,
not Virtual PC.
Seems to install okay except that it "couldn't find"
some files so I let it skip those. It gets to where
it will boot only to Safe Mode. Booting to Normal gives
"Windows Protection Error".


Boot into logged mode and check the last entries in your bootlog.txt
file. That should tell you what the system was trying to do just
before it errored out.

- Franc Zabkar

Thank you for the suggestion, Franc. However, Gary has
finally managed to convince me that modern machines do
not come with 98 drivers, and Microsoft has discontinued
their support, and the drivers are not available and
never will be. While it is not as convenient to run 98
in a Virtual PC under XP,(on those occasions when I must
run 98, it is a viable solution.
Bill Lurie

William B. Lurie[_2_] April 28th 08 05:20 PM

Windows Protection Error
 
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
1. Yes it applies to all Windows systems earlier than Win2000 (and
perhaps not even that in some cases?)

2. AFAIK, you do not have to first install Windows 98 in order to
upgrade to ME. Just start the ME setup.exe and when asked for proof of
upgrade eligibility, show it the Win98 disc.

FYI, Gary, I just set up a new VPC to try what you mentioned
in (2) above. I didn't succeed in getting it to recognize
my ME CD at all. It just showed one line of gibberish starting
with MAC, with the / and \ spinning.....and spinning......
forever. You referred to the "ME setup.exe" but the VPC
creation didn't seem to see the CD. I tried rebooting and
so on...but to no avail.


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