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caroloyl September 23rd 09 09:17 PM

Text Case Problem
 
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)



















Mart September 24th 09 05:10 AM

Text Case Problem
 
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in WinMe
which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed that
this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to be the
current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this phenomenon.
However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How Windows
Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)




caroloyl September 25th 09 09:58 AM

Text Case Problem
 
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)








Mart September 25th 09 10:38 AM

Text Case Problem
 
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old WinMe
boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw it raised
in these news group pages quite some years ago.

Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can offer
anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)










webster72n September 25th 09 06:52 PM

Text Case Problem
 


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw it
raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.


It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ...
and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears
to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in
"How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named
them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)









Mart September 25th 09 07:05 PM

Text Case Problem
 
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try g)
Renaming them.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.


It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on
the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ...
and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still appears
to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages, that
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in
"How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named
them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I
can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)











RockyTSquirrel[_2_] September 25th 09 08:42 PM

Text Case Problem
 
Mart & Webster72n,
I've noticed some file name capping on this ME machine, but usually only
when I'm working on up/dwn loading web pages..
It's a habit now to just check and rename on the server any and all changes
that take place..
As for the onboard HD's I've only seen a very few changes on the C drive
and never any on the D drive..

RTS


"Mart" wrote in message
...
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try g)
Renaming them.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change

issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.


It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my machine.
H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on
the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter ...
and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will

try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround

sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has

confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still

appears
to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,

that
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in
"How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB

drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS).

Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named
them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I
can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)













webster72n September 25th 09 11:46 PM

Text Case Problem
 


"RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message
...
Mart & Webster72n,
I've noticed some file name capping on this ME machine, but usually
only
when I'm working on up/dwn loading web pages..
It's a habit now to just check and rename on the server any and all
changes
that take place..
As for the onboard HD's I've only seen a very few changes on the C drive
and never any on the D drive..


Never did any uploading, but downloading is no problem either.
Should it ever happen to me, I'll tolerate it in Mart's fashion, if he can
do it, so can I g. H.


RTS


"Mart" wrote in message
...
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there are
quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of which I do
remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor intend to try g)
Renaming them.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change

issue
was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it' on my old
WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus when I first
saw
it raised in these news group pages quite some years ago.

It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine.
H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel can
offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once on
the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter
...
and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately the
renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b Will

try
the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute issues
in
WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB articles:-

"Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690

"System Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround

sections)

Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft has

confirmed
that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename' workaround still

appears
to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,

that
the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem in
"How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or
XP.
Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB

drive.
When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all folder
and
file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS).

Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I named
them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS version
is
inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is there any way I
can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case letters
only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)













Tarquin T. Shuttlecock December 18th 09 02:33 AM

Text Case Problem
 
Ha!

I don't *think* I ever posted this tardily before, so why not? Herb
Trousers' 'The Rename' runs on 9x and is excellent for renaming en masse.
For instance, you can change case to first letter of each word capitalised.
The could change said case of every file on C: (bar, I suppose, in use
stuff) by starting in C: and selecting sub-folders, then every file in the
subsequent list. Course it would probably take a *long* time, not least due
to obvious hardware limitations on a box still running Me!

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

Mart wrote:
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there
are quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of
which I do remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor
intend to try g) Renaming them.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change
issue was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it'
on my old WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus
when I first saw it raised in these news group pages quite some
years ago.


It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine. H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel
can offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once
on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter
... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately
the renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b
Will try the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute
issues in WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB
articles:- "Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After
Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690 "System
Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections) Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft
has
confirmed that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename'
workaround still appears to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,
that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem
in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or
XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive. When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all
folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I
named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS
version is inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is
there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case
letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)






Mart December 18th 09 11:32 AM

Text Case Problem
 
... so why not?

.... Course it would probably take a *long* time,


Answered your own question, Tarqui old fruit.

Plus, some are likely to change (revert) over time. See carol's comment :-
.. Unfortunately the renaming didn't stick,
carol


Making it a bit of a pointless exercise, especially in my case where it made
absolutely no real odds to me what case it was in. Just lived with it.

HT


"Tarquin T. Shuttlecock" wrote in message
...
Ha!

I don't *think* I ever posted this tardily before, so why not? Herb
Trousers' 'The Rename' runs on 9x and is excellent for renaming en masse.
For instance, you can change case to first letter of each word
capitalised.
The could change said case of every file on C: (bar, I suppose, in use
stuff) by starting in C: and selecting sub-folders, then every file in the
subsequent list. Course it would probably take a *long* time, not least
due
to obvious hardware limitations on a box still running Me!

Tarquin T. Shuttlecock

Mart wrote:
You may be right Harry. Just looked at my old WinMe laptop and there
are quite a substantial number of upper-case file names, some of
which I do remember were once in lower-case. But not tried (nor
intend to try g) Renaming them.

Mart



"webster72n" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback carol, but I suspect the random case-change
issue was/is a "feature" of WinMe. I recall just 'living with it'
on my old WinMe boxes and I think that was the general consensus
when I first saw it raised in these news group pages quite some
years ago.

It must to be a local problem, Mart, I don't encounter it on my
machine. H.


Sorry I can't really help any further, don't know if Mike or Noel
can offer anything. Best of luck.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart--

Thanks for the--yes--helpful links! I did use System Restore once
on the
new Millennium installation a few days after I got the dual booter
... and
I did try renaming a few of Me's files manually. Unfortunately
the renaming didn't stick, but then I may have done it with XP :-b
Will try the renaming again from within Me.

carol



"Mart" wrote in message
...
IIRC - I *think* this can sometimes happen due to attribute
issues in WinMe which *may* be linked to the following KB
articles:- "Start Menu or Shortcut Items Appear Capitalized After
Restoration"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;261690
"System
Restore May Not Properly Restore Attributes to Files"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267160
(Note the reference to 'case' in the Symptoms and Workaround
sections) Interesting to note in the Status section that "Microsoft
has
confirmed that this is a problem ...." and the 'Rename'
workaround still appears to
be the current fix.

Also, I seem to recall that it was once suggested on these pages,
that the
way
WinMe handles long filenames, might also have an effect on this
phenomenon. However, there's no mention of this potential problem
in "How
Windows Generates 8.3 File Names from Long File Names"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142982/en-us

Sorry if my response isn't very helpful.

Mart


"caroloyl" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of Me conundrums going on--this first:

In April I had a new computer built to boot either Millennium or
XP. Both
OS are on appropriate partitions (C=FAT32; G=NTFS) on a 160 GB
drive. When I use Windows Explorer in Me (but not XP) I find all
folder and file
names with 8 or fewer characters converted to all caps (DOS). Longer
names
appear with initial caps or all lower case letters just as I
named them.
The admixture of naming formats looks chaotic and the DOS
version is inappropriate for files I upload to my websites. Is
there any way I can
force Millennium's WinExp to use mixed-case and lower case
letters only
for
every name?

Thanks for hanging in here for diehards like me :-)









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