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Chandra Madhira September 26th 04 08:30 PM

Win ME Home Networking , ADSL, Wireless Router & Ethernet Port Issue
 
Hello:
I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet cable.
Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The home
networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
connects to internet using another computer". My ADSL speeds were very and I
never had any complaints. I used to get anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo
bits per sec for downloads

In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same 2
computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet using
PPPoE settings on my router.

I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo bits
per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to look
into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem and
not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is Toshiba.
Fair enough.

Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL modem
directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL modem
is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change my
home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet directly".
Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the IP
address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back to
the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.

I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why my
ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home networking I
was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet light
used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
networking and I do not know exactly what it is.

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Chandra Madhira




N. Miller September 27th 04 05:05 AM

In article , Chandra Madhira says...

I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet cable.
Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The home
networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
connects to internet using another computer".


Stop! Right here! You have a router, and you have a computer configured as
connecting to the Internet through another computer? Why? This sounds like
an ICS connection. Each computer connects to the router independently of the
other; you shouldn't need that setting.

My ADSL speeds were very and I never had any complaints. I used to get
anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo bits per sec for downloads


In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same 2
computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet using
PPPoE settings on my router.


I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo bits
per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to look
into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem and
not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is Toshiba.
Fair enough.


Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL modem
directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL modem
is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change my
home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet directly".
Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the IP
address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back to
the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.


I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why my
ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home networking I
was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet light
used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
networking and I do not know exactly what it is.


Would appreciate any help.


Go back to each computer connecting through the router. Let the router
handle the PPPoE. DO NOT run the ICS connection. It is not necessary. I have
not had to run the Windows Me home networking Wizard since setting up behind
a router. The computer with the wired connection and the wireless computer
should each have a different IP address assigned by the router's DHCP
service. That should be sufficient.

Remove Internet Connection Sharing. When you are behind a router that only
confuses the issue.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Chandra Madhira September 28th 04 11:50 AM

Thanks. I understand your point of ICS. However my issue is not to do with
connecting to internet using a router. I am able to connect to internet
through router even w/ICS setting.

I now want to connect my computer directly to ADSL Modem WITHOUT a router.
That is when the ethernet light is off. Let me ask this. How can I UNINSTALL
home networking in ME. I want to go back to the configuration prior to
activating home networking? I know I can reintsall windows ME. Is there a
way without that. Somehow the home networking is stealing the ethernet port.

Thanks
"N. Miller" wrote in message
om...
In article , Chandra Madhira

says...

I recently moved to a new apartment. In my old apt I was using Earthlink
ADSL, Toshiba Wireless router to connect to internet. I used to connect
using DHCP settings on the router. I had (and still have ) 2 computers -
desktop and laptop. Desktop was connected to router using Ethernet

cable.
Laptop used wireless. Desktop had Win ME and Laptop had Win XP Pro. The

home
networking on my desk top Win ME system was configured as "this computer
connects to internet using another computer".


Stop! Right here! You have a router, and you have a computer configured as
connecting to the Internet through another computer? Why? This sounds like
an ICS connection. Each computer connects to the router independently of

the
other; you shouldn't need that setting.

My ADSL speeds were very and I never had any complaints. I used to get
anywhere between 625 to 800 Kilo bits per sec for downloads


In my new apt I have the same environment - same ISP, same router, same

2
computers but the ADSL modem was changed. Now I connect to internet

using
PPPoE settings on my router.


I find that my ADSL speeds are significantly reduced - around 395 kilo

bits
per second for downloads. When I asked earthlink, they said in order to

look
into my issue I need to connect my computer directly to the ADSL modem

and
not through a router as they do not support other routers. Mine is

Toshiba.
Fair enough.


Now I am trying to connect my desktop (Win ME) computer to the ADSL

modem
directly. There is only one problem - the ethernet light on the ADSL

modem
is not green. I get the ADSL light and power light. So I tried to change

my
home networking settings to "this computer connects to internet

directly".
Even then the ethernet light is not on. When I run "IPCONFIG" I get the

IP
address of the router (192.168.10.100). When I connect my computer back

to
the router the ethernet light on the ADSL modem is on.


I know I am missing something very basic. Can you help me find out why

my
ethernet light is not on when I am connecting to the modem directly. My
modem is Paradyne. Begfore I started using the router and home

networking I
was able to connect the ADSL modem to the computer and the ethernet

light
used to be on. I am thinking it is something to do with the Win ME home
networking and I do not know exactly what it is.


Would appreciate any help.


Go back to each computer connecting through the router. Let the router
handle the PPPoE. DO NOT run the ICS connection. It is not necessary. I

have
not had to run the Windows Me home networking Wizard since setting up

behind
a router. The computer with the wired connection and the wireless computer
should each have a different IP address assigned by the router's DHCP
service. That should be sufficient.

Remove Internet Connection Sharing. When you are behind a router that only
confuses the issue.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint




N. Miller September 29th 04 10:03 AM

In article , Chandra Madhira says...

Thanks. I understand your point of ICS. However my issue is not to do with
connecting to internet using a router. I am able to connect to internet
through router even w/ICS setting.


I now want to connect my computer directly to ADSL Modem WITHOUT a router.
That is when the ethernet light is off. Let me ask this. How can I UNINSTALL
home networking in ME. I want to go back to the configuration prior to
activating home networking? I know I can reintsall windows ME. Is there a
way without that. Somehow the home networking is stealing the ethernet port.


I don't think you really need to do that. But removing the adapter from
Network Properties should have that effect. The green PCA icon next to the
name of your Ethernet card.

But if all you want is a direct connection between the computer and the
adapter, you just set up whatever connection manager is proper for your
flavor of ADSL. I would have to reinstall a PPPoE connection manager.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint


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