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Robin CB April 27th 08 01:56 PM

Windows ME and Wireless Internet
 
Hi,

I have a laptop running ME and am trying to connect to my Orange Broadband
Router without success.

I have no trouble with connecting wireless to the Router with my desktop PC
running XP using a Sweex USB dongle, but using the same dongle on my laptop
doesn't work. I have also tried a Motorola PCMCIA card on my laptop without
success.

Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but both
tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key several
times.

I have tried Pinging the router's IP address, but it says "Destination host
unreachable".

Any ideas?

Thanks,


Mike M April 27th 08 04:33 PM

Windows ME and Wireless Internet
 
Have you installed the necessary Win Me drivers for the dongle and PCMCIA
card?

What does running WinIPCfg tell you about your adapter?

Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but
both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key
several times.


Ok, so it appears you may have installed the drivers.
Can you connect if you TEMPORARILY disable WEP on the router?
Have you perhaps enabled MAC filtering on the router, that is only
allowing clients with known MAC addresses to connect? This is called on
some routers "registration".

One final thought. I assume that you have DHCP enabled on the router,
that is the router allocates an IP address to each machine wanting to
connect. If so check that you haven't allocated and IP address to the
Wireless NIC on the laptop OR if you have that the IP address is within
the allocated range on the router.
--
Mike Maltby



Robin CB wrote:

Hi,

I have a laptop running ME and am trying to connect to my Orange
Broadband Router without success.

I have no trouble with connecting wireless to the Router with my
desktop PC running XP using a Sweex USB dongle, but using the same
dongle on my laptop doesn't work. I have also tried a Motorola
PCMCIA card on my laptop without success.

Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but
both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key
several times.

I have tried Pinging the router's IP address, but it says
"Destination host unreachable".

Any ideas?

Thanks,



Robin CB April 27th 08 10:12 PM

Windows ME and Wireless Internet
 
Thanks Mike,

I can confirm that the drivers and utilities have been installed for both
devices.

I have tried temporarily removing all WPA / WEP security from the router,
but this hasn't allowed connection.

Typing WinIPCfg tells me my Host Name, but the DNS Server is blank. The
Node Type is Broadcast, but the other Host Information is blank. The
Ethernet Adapter Information gives me an Adapter Address, but the IP Address
says "Media Disconnected". The Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, etc are blank.

I cannot find anything about MAC on the router settings, but DHCP is
enabled. The Start Address and Server End Address are very close together
(only the last set of numbers is different ), but I can't see a way of
changing them.

Does this give you a clue?

Thanks,

Robin




"Mike M" wrote:

Have you installed the necessary Win Me drivers for the dongle and PCMCIA
card?

What does running WinIPCfg tell you about your adapter?

Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but
both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key
several times.


Ok, so it appears you may have installed the drivers.
Can you connect if you TEMPORARILY disable WEP on the router?
Have you perhaps enabled MAC filtering on the router, that is only
allowing clients with known MAC addresses to connect? This is called on
some routers "registration".

One final thought. I assume that you have DHCP enabled on the router,
that is the router allocates an IP address to each machine wanting to
connect. If so check that you haven't allocated and IP address to the
Wireless NIC on the laptop OR if you have that the IP address is within
the allocated range on the router.
--
Mike Maltby



Robin CB wrote:

Hi,

I have a laptop running ME and am trying to connect to my Orange
Broadband Router without success.

I have no trouble with connecting wireless to the Router with my
desktop PC running XP using a Sweex USB dongle, but using the same
dongle on my laptop doesn't work. I have also tried a Motorola
PCMCIA card on my laptop without success.

Both the dongle and the PCMCIA card allow me to see the Router, but
both tell me I am disconnected. I have tried re-entering the WEP key
several times.

I have tried Pinging the router's IP address, but it says
"Destination host unreachable".

Any ideas?

Thanks,




Mike M April 27th 08 11:31 PM

Windows ME and Wireless Internet
 
Robin,

Knowing the router model would possibly help, especially so as you have
been unable to determine whether router is blocking access from your
hardware based on its MAC address. Alternatively have you been able to
connect to the router using the same hardware (usb or PCMIA) but installed
in another system which would mean that either the device is registered
with the router or that the router doesn't require device registration?

You might be better posting details of your problem to the
WindowsMe.Networking NG. (microsoft.public.windowsme.networking) where one
of the networking gurus might see your post, Steve Winograd is one who
comes to mind although I know he has recently cut down on his posting to
the NGs.

Incidentally if the router doesn't require hardware registration and you
are using WEP encryption this is a bit like having your front door kept
closed by a piece of string. As you may know it takes about 20 seconds to
break WEP using readily available tools.
--
Mike Maltby



Robin CB wrote:

Thanks Mike,

I can confirm that the drivers and utilities have been installed for
both devices.

I have tried temporarily removing all WPA / WEP security from the
router, but this hasn't allowed connection.

Typing WinIPCfg tells me my Host Name, but the DNS Server is blank.
The Node Type is Broadcast, but the other Host Information is blank.
The Ethernet Adapter Information gives me an Adapter Address, but the
IP Address says "Media Disconnected". The Subnet Mask, Default
Gateway, etc are blank.

I cannot find anything about MAC on the router settings, but DHCP is
enabled. The Start Address and Server End Address are very close
together (only the last set of numbers is different ), but I can't
see a way of changing them.

Does this give you a clue?



Robin CB April 28th 08 09:54 AM

Windows ME and Wireless Internet
 
Mike,

Thanks again for your help.

My router is a proprietary one from Orange (called an Orange Livebox), so I
can't easily identify it, but the firmware is INVENTEL v5.10.

Re WEP - sorry I should have said - it is currently set to "WPA Only".

I will try the Networking NG this evening.

Cheers,

Robin


"Mike M" wrote:

Robin,

Knowing the router model would possibly help, especially so as you have
been unable to determine whether router is blocking access from your
hardware based on its MAC address. Alternatively have you been able to
connect to the router using the same hardware (usb or PCMIA) but installed
in another system which would mean that either the device is registered
with the router or that the router doesn't require device registration?

You might be better posting details of your problem to the
WindowsMe.Networking NG. (microsoft.public.windowsme.networking) where one
of the networking gurus might see your post, Steve Winograd is one who
comes to mind although I know he has recently cut down on his posting to
the NGs.

Incidentally if the router doesn't require hardware registration and you
are using WEP encryption this is a bit like having your front door kept
closed by a piece of string. As you may know it takes about 20 seconds to
break WEP using readily available tools.
--
Mike Maltby






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