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Olive January 19th 06 05:13 AM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
I've used Control Panel/System and regedit to disable drive
write-behind on windows 98 but it always turns itself back on. After
about two or three days it goes back to write-behind enabled.

How do I disable drive write-behind for all drives (internal and
removable) and make drive-behind remain disabled in windows 98?

Noel Paton January 19th 06 11:34 AM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
Why would you want to do something like that?
http://216.15.201.66/dpec/courses/wt3/wt3ac.htm#wtb015
should give you some pointers.


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"Olive" wrote in message
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I've used Control Panel/System and regedit to disable drive
write-behind on windows 98 but it always turns itself back on. After
about two or three days it goes back to write-behind enabled.

How do I disable drive write-behind for all drives (internal and
removable) and make drive-behind remain disabled in windows 98?




Franc Zabkar January 19th 06 08:25 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:52 -0000, "Noel Paton"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Why would you want to do something like that?
http://216.15.201.66/dpec/courses/wt3/wt3ac.htm#wtb015
should give you some pointers.


I would think that write-behind caching could result in file system
problems if the system crashes before data are written to the drive.

- Franc Zabkar
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Noel Paton January 19th 06 09:48 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:52 -0000, "Noel Paton"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Why would you want to do something like that?
http://216.15.201.66/dpec/courses/wt3/wt3ac.htm#wtb015
should give you some pointers.


I would think that write-behind caching could result in file system
problems if the system crashes before data are written to the drive.


- and what are the realistic chances of that happening, when the cache is
emptied/written after 5 seconds in Win98? the chance is greater that you'll
see a system slowdown without the cache than you'll lose more data (than you
would otherwise have lost).
The only sites that I've seen recommending this dubious tweak are those
dealing with music manipulation - and I have little confidence in their
ability to improve over the default.
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Noel Paton January 20th 06 12:32 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
I'd still like to know why you feel it's necessary?

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"Olive" wrote in message
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I still have not received a workable answer.
I want to disable drive write-behind and make the settings stick.
How do I do this? Thanks.




Noel Paton January 20th 06 12:43 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
Have a look in your system.ini file
do you have any entries in the [vcache] section??

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"Olive" wrote in message
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I still have not received a workable answer.
I want to disable drive write-behind and make the settings stick.
How do I do this? Thanks.




Olive January 20th 06 03:18 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
I still have not received a workable answer.
I want to disable drive write-behind and make the settings stick.
How do I do this? Thanks.

Jeff Richards January 20th 06 09:56 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
It must be turned off if you want to do any serious disk system performance
testing.
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"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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I'd still like to know why you feel it's necessary?




Noel Paton January 20th 06 11:19 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
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It must be turned off if you want to do any serious disk system
performance testing.



That is total BS! - the whole point of system benchmarking is to test the
system "as it will be used" - not in some airy-fairy-land of the dealer's
choice!

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Noel Paton January 20th 06 11:20 PM

why won't write-behind stay disabled?
 
first off - delete ALL of those entries - they are crippling your system!!!

then play with the system, and come back with results.

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"Olive" wrote in message
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System.ini shows no obvious mention of write-behind.

Vcache settings:
maxfilecache=3072
chunksize=512
minfilecache=3072

Reasons are that I'm ways to inprove disk performance because I'm
tired of getting file system problems because my system too often
hangs up before data gets written to my drive (lost clusters and
orphaned pieces of files, etc.) I've tried everything else believe
me.

Second I'm tweaking my MTU/port settings for faster internet data
transfer. I was reading microsoft website about setting port speed
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...4f1a41033.mspx
when I read what this same article said about write-behind "You may
want to disable the write behind cache function, especially if you own
system critical applications, and ALWAYS shut down Windows AFTER
closing ALL running programs! This means all data will be immediately
written to disk, bypassing the cache." I take it from my reading that
write-behind is also implictated in problems with the data layer of
internet connections. I've been trying ever since to disable
write-behind.
Please if you wish to comment on my reasoning OK but help me disable
write-behind.





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