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Hi forum,
First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
I think you probably know what I'm going to say.........
GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
Hallo,
I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post.
What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
No problem,
I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
That's nice to hear!
I notice that you say that AVG says that it found two trojans in the Restore archive - in the Temp folder. This would tend to imply that they were put there recently (within the past 24hours) by deletions or removal from elsewhere. I would run a full scan in Safe Mode using AdAware, followed by another scan with AVG while in Safe Mode. See what you find -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... No problem, I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
Hallo Noel,
I performed both scans as you requested and everthing was fine (removing the virus in C:\restore\temp can only be executed after after first disabling the Restore funtion - but that i am sure that you do know). I am using now temporary the AVG and i was thinking to a package which combines the virusscanner and the firewall. Currently i am using Zonealarm as firewall (not bad but everytime running a scandisk it fails on the tvdebug.log file). Would appreciate your advice on it. Nevertheless again thanks. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... That's nice to hear! I notice that you say that AVG says that it found two trojans in the Restore archive - in the Temp folder. This would tend to imply that they were put there recently (within the past 24hours) by deletions or removal from elsewhere. I would run a full scan in Safe Mode using AdAware, followed by another scan with AVG while in Safe Mode. See what you find -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... No problem, I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
Hallo Noel,
In other parts of this forum i saw that KB891711 was causing a lot of problems. I wanted to know if that could be the reason in my case: -i deactivated the related patch -installed Norton 2003 again and everthing was running fine -after activating the patch the system was hanging again.... -again de-activating the patch and the system was working perfectly.... So, in my case it seemed that Norton didīnt cause the problem but pach KB891711......... This, just for your info and by now i really donīt know what to do into the near future. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... That's nice to hear! I notice that you say that AVG says that it found two trojans in the Restore archive - in the Temp folder. This would tend to imply that they were put there recently (within the past 24hours) by deletions or removal from elsewhere. I would run a full scan in Safe Mode using AdAware, followed by another scan with AVG while in Safe Mode. See what you find -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... No problem, I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
Thanks, Huib!!!
That is VERY valuable information!!! - now what I need you to tell me is the exact version number of Norton that you're using (Help About should give it, IIRC) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo Noel, In other parts of this forum i saw that KB891711 was causing a lot of problems. I wanted to know if that could be the reason in my case: -i deactivated the related patch -installed Norton 2003 again and everthing was running fine -after activating the patch the system was hanging again.... -again de-activating the patch and the system was working perfectly.... So, in my case it seemed that Norton didīnt cause the problem but pach KB891711......... This, just for your info and by now i really donīt know what to do into the near future. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... That's nice to hear! I notice that you say that AVG says that it found two trojans in the Restore archive - in the Temp folder. This would tend to imply that they were put there recently (within the past 24hours) by deletions or removal from elsewhere. I would run a full scan in Safe Mode using AdAware, followed by another scan with AVG while in Safe Mode. See what you find -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... No problem, I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
One thing, though - Why blame the patch, when it's self-evidently Norton's
misuse of the Registry that causes the problem in your case? since uninstalling NAV cured the problem - why did you reinstall it? You now have a significantly less secure system! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Thanks, Huib!!! That is VERY valuable information!!! - now what I need you to tell me is the exact version number of Norton that you're using (Help About should give it, IIRC) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo Noel, In other parts of this forum i saw that KB891711 was causing a lot of problems. I wanted to know if that could be the reason in my case: -i deactivated the related patch -installed Norton 2003 again and everthing was running fine -after activating the patch the system was hanging again.... -again de-activating the patch and the system was working perfectly.... So, in my case it seemed that Norton didīnt cause the problem but pach KB891711......... This, just for your info and by now i really donīt know what to do into the near future. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... That's nice to hear! I notice that you say that AVG says that it found two trojans in the Restore archive - in the Temp folder. This would tend to imply that they were put there recently (within the past 24hours) by deletions or removal from elsewhere. I would run a full scan in Safe Mode using AdAware, followed by another scan with AVG while in Safe Mode. See what you find -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... No problem, I dropped Norton, all problems gone. After installing AVG as "temporay try" it even dedected 2 Trojan Horses wich Norton never founded (also in C:\ Restore\Temp) Many thanks Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... Sorry for the confusion - something seems to have got lost from that post. What I *intended* to say was:- "Without exception, all Symantec products **cause major problems** in ME - and also in most other OS's" -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hallo, I probably missunderstood your other comment: "Without exception, all Symantec products in ME - and also in most other OS's" , i thought you wanted to say that Norton did work fine with any MS. By now it is clear, together with the comments under Norton 2004. Regards Huib "Noel Paton" schreef in bericht ... I think you probably know what I'm going to say......... GET RID OF NORTON!! Then install something that works better with ME - which leaves almost every other AV application for your delectation (in fact, I can't think of anything that runs worse!!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Huib" wrote in message ... Hi forum, First i dedected that the automatic live update of Norton 2003 didnīt take place anymore although my license is still to 1/6/2005 Afterwards i regular received a bleu screen. I could dedect that it finaaly came from the Norton 2003. After re-installing the Norton 2003 everthing was ok till i tried a live-update and the blue screen was there again. I had to start all over again and withe the live-update is everthing ok. Any help is welcome. regards Huib |
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