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ms February 13th 06 10:56 PM

System Restore
 
This is a used computer with unknown history.

Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?

How to disable System Restore?

Is this desireable to save system resoures?

TIA

MS

Mike M February 13th 06 11:12 PM

System Restore
 
If you have a system restore checkpoint dated May 2005 and the PC has been
used since then rather than sitting switched off, this could suggest that
system restore is fubared and my advice would be to reset system restore
and clear the archive.

To reset system resto
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you
restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally more
than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to
be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days
during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

Finally I would suggest that you carry out the following quick test to
confirm that all is now in order.
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you create a checkpoint?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
e) Reboot your PC
Was the checkpoint retained?
--
Mike Maltby



ms wrote:

This is a used computer with unknown history.

Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?

How to disable System Restore?

Is this desireable to save system resoures?



Shane February 13th 06 11:15 PM

System Restore
 

"ms" wrote in message
...
This is a used computer with unknown history.

Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?


It's imperative that you delete files that old, one should not restore back
more than a week or two (say a week if you use it daily, two if you don't!).

How to disable System Restore?


http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;264887


Is this desireable to save system resoures?


No. System Restore is there for a very good reason. A great many problems
that would otherwise require considerable expertise and/or much work to
recover from, may be resolved in a couple of minutes by restoring to the
last checkpoint. Just set the allocated space to about 200-500MB. A lot of
arrogant rubbish is spouted about Win ME and System Restore by people who
should just stick with 98 and are really just trying to ring their own bell,
like Windows user versions of Linux trolls.

Look he http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;267951

Shane



Shane February 13th 06 11:22 PM

System Restore
 
Glad to see Mike is abroad! I'll bow out now. If you want to know about
System Restore in Win ME, just follow Mike's advice!

Hi Mike! I'll go watch telly now then, before I have my coffee and hit the
sack. After Crime Scene Investigation. After QI. When the fire's gone out.

Shane


"Shane" wrote in message
...

"ms" wrote in message
...
This is a used computer with unknown history.

Can I delete System Restore files from May, 2005?


It's imperative that you delete files that old, one should not restore
back more than a week or two (say a week if you use it daily, two if you
don't!).

How to disable System Restore?


http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;264887


Is this desireable to save system resoures?


No. System Restore is there for a very good reason. A great many problems
that would otherwise require considerable expertise and/or much work to
recover from, may be resolved in a couple of minutes by restoring to the
last checkpoint. Just set the allocated space to about 200-500MB. A lot of
arrogant rubbish is spouted about Win ME and System Restore by people who
should just stick with 98 and are really just trying to ring their own
bell, like Windows user versions of Linux trolls.

Look he
http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;267951

Shane




Mike M February 13th 06 11:38 PM

System Restore
 
Shane wrote:

Glad to see Mike is abroad! I'll bow out now. If you want to know
about System Restore in Win ME, just follow Mike's advice!

Hi Mike! I'll go watch telly now then, before I have my coffee and
hit the sack. After Crime Scene Investigation. After QI. When the
fire's gone out.


Hi Shane,

VBG

I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough of
TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)
--
Mike



ms February 14th 06 12:16 AM

System Restore
 
Mike M wrote:
If you have a system restore checkpoint dated May 2005 and the PC has
been used since then rather than sitting switched off, this could
suggest that system restore is fubared and my advice would be to reset
system restore and clear the archive.

To reset system resto
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you
restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now
automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally more
than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to
be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days
during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

Finally I would suggest that you carry out the following quick test to
confirm that all is now in order.
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you create a checkpoint?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
e) Reboot your PC
Was the checkpoint retained?


I can, of course, create a shortcut. But please explain:

b) Create a manual checkpoint


Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?
Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on desktop. Can
I do this anywhere? I use a windows shell, never work in desktop except to dial up.

MS

Mike M February 14th 06 12:55 AM

System Restore
 
b) Create a manual checkpoint

Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?


No. I mean create a manual checkpoint. That is open system restore
[Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools], click create a restore
point and follow the prompts.

Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on
desktop. Can I do this anywhere?


The shortcut has to be in an area monitored by system restore and the
desktop is the easiest accessed of such locations but if you want to use
another location so be it.

I use a windows shell


As does everyone, for most it is called Windows Explorer although some
still use progman.

I never work in desktop except to dial up.


What does dial up have to do with the shell or gui? Do you mean that you
are using VNC or something similar to access the Win Me system remotely?
--
Mike Maltby



ms wrote:


I can, of course, create a shortcut. But please explain:

b) Create a manual checkpoint


Do you mean what I see as files in the REstore folder?
Haven't come across this before. BTW, you say create the shortcut on
desktop. Can I do this anywhere? I use a windows shell, never work in
desktop except to dial up.
MS



Shane February 14th 06 02:24 AM

System Restore
 
I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)


I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping it's
because of the codeine!

Anyway, 'Night, mate!


Shane



Noel Paton February 14th 06 11:39 AM

System Restore
 

"Shane" wrote in message
...
I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)


I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping
it's
because of the codeine!


Nah - it's that you old fogies tend to drop off every five minutes anyhow!
:)
gd&r

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

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Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's



Shane February 14th 06 02:55 PM

System Restore
 

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...

"Shane" wrote in message
...
I'm going to be heading the same direction real soon too. Had enough
of TV, even QI, so it's a book for me. :-)


I know what you mean, Mike! I've been trying to get back into reading and
doing the cryptic crossword lately, but I keep nodding off! I'm hoping
it's
because of the codeine!


Nah - it's that you old fogies tend to drop off every five minutes anyhow!
:)
gd&r


Cheers, Noel. The reassurance is much appreciated!

Shane




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