Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

As previously posted I have had shutdown problems with WIN98 SE.

Since replacing my HD it has gone from very rare to quite often.

It only seems to happen after I've been online for ages but not with
non-Internet use.

I have checked out the MS trouble-shooting page on Shutdown issues but no
improvement - even installed their patch.

But still the same.

Something of interest is that when it finishes NOT shutting down there is a
horizontal green stripe at the top of the screen made up of vertical lines.
I can remember getting this years ago on an entirely different system under
WIN95.

Any ideas as to what this is and what it means?

Try here
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm

--
Jon Hildrum
DTS MVP

www.hildrum.com
"Steve Wade" wrote in message
...

As previously posted I have had shutdown problems with WIN98 SE.

Since replacing my HD it has gone from very rare to quite often.

It only seems to happen after I've been online for ages but not with
non-Internet use.

I have checked out the MS trouble-shooting page on Shutdown issues but no
improvement - even installed their patch.

But still the same.

Something of interest is that when it finishes NOT shutting down there is
a
horizontal green stripe at the top of the screen made up of vertical
lines.
I can remember getting this years ago on an entirely different system
under
WIN95.

Any ideas as to what this is and what it means?

"Jon_Hildrum" wrote in message
...
Try here
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm

Thanks!

An excellent page and rather clearer than MS's example.

Pity then that I have already formatted and re-installed. :-+

I seem to have got into the habit of a fresh install once year.

Anyone think this is unnecessary?

Anyone think it is a good habit to get into?

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

Steve Wade voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in
microsoft.public.win98.apps on Thu 22 Sep 2005 12:50:40p:


"Jon_Hildrum" wrote in message
...
Try here
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm

Thanks!

An excellent page and rather clearer than MS's example.

Pity then that I have already formatted and re-installed. :-+

I seem to have got into the habit of a fresh install once year.

Anyone think this is unnecessary?

Anyone think it is a good habit to get into?




If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an 98SE.

Just make sure you have scandisk set to not run after every improper
shutdown.

--
Later......

Labrat...... |:^{)

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

Another bad advice, like about the snake-oil programs for RAM freeing (in the
thread "Freeing-up Memory Without Re-booting?").

And even two bad advices.

"No harm done"? Hmm... It's very easy to destroy the file structure on the
HDDs in such case -- that's why Windows scans the drives after the improper
shutdown.

So your second advice "make sure you have scandisk set to not run after every
improper shutdown" does not allow Windows to solve the possible problems
immediately after they occur, and makes the things worse.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:45:48 GMT, Labrat wrote:

Steve Wade voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in
microsoft.public.win98.apps on Thu 22 Sep 2005 12:50:40p:


"Jon_Hildrum" wrote in message
...
Try here
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm

Thanks!

An excellent page and rather clearer than MS's example.

Pity then that I have already formatted and re-installed. :-+

I seem to have got into the habit of a fresh install once year.

Anyone think this is unnecessary?

Anyone think it is a good habit to get into?




If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an 98SE.

Just make sure you have scandisk set to not run after every improper
shutdown.

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

Really, REALLY bad advice here. Forcing Windows closed can corrupt files on
the hard drive and if SCANDISK is disabled you'll never know.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Labrat" wrote in message
...

If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an 98SE.

Just make sure you have scandisk set to not run after every improper
shutdown.

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an 98SE.


As a postscript:

Unfortunately pressing 'that' button is unavoidable sometimes but really my
question was prompted by my HD accumulating a few bad clusters, which I
presumed was linked to too many improper shut-downs.

Eliminating Real Player Update from the Start-up seemed to bring a (so far)
huge improvement.

Knowing what to include and exclude from the Start-up still remains a
quandary.

Thanks!

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

If you do not use a program during every computer session, don't start it at
boot. I'd rather click on a shortcut when I need to use a program than
waiting on the PC to boot because of too many programs being started. Also,
having a bunch of programs running in the background can cause your
resources to run out faster.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Steve Wade" wrote in message
...

If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an
98SE.


As a postscript:

Unfortunately pressing 'that' button is unavoidable sometimes but really
my
question was prompted by my HD accumulating a few bad clusters, which I
presumed was linked to too many improper shut-downs.

Eliminating Real Player Update from the Start-up seemed to bring a (so
far)
huge improvement.

Knowing what to include and exclude from the Start-up still remains a
quandary.

Thanks!

Win98SE Shutdown problems
 

Real Player is the culprit!

Having struggled with the 98SE shutdown problem for several months I went to
the Real Player help website to see if there were any comments regarding this
issue. It was suggested that the optional automatic services in
"preferences" be unchecked to stop them from loading. I did this and have had
absolutely no shutdown problem for the past two weeks. Whatever the TKBell
file is, I think that's the core problem that prevents Windows 98 from
shutting down. I have it blocked from loading with "Statup Cop."

MikeM.


"Ron Badour" wrote:

If you do not use a program during every computer session, don't start it at
boot. I'd rather click on a shortcut when I need to use a program than
waiting on the PC to boot because of too many programs being started. Also,
having a bunch of programs running in the background can cause your
resources to run out faster.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Steve Wade" wrote in message
...

If 98 won't shut down properly, just push the power button on the front
of your computer. No harm done. It's a common problem with 98 an
98SE.


As a postscript:

Unfortunately pressing 'that' button is unavoidable sometimes but really
my
question was prompted by my HD accumulating a few bad clusters, which I
presumed was linked to too many improper shut-downs.

Eliminating Real Player Update from the Start-up seemed to bring a (so
far)
huge improvement.

Knowing what to include and exclude from the Start-up still remains a
quandary.

Thanks!