still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions
video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in message
...
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions
video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
...
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson


.

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the question, I'd go
with that!
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in message
...

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
...
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson


.

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the
display...' message. i checked the value--same with
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would
not. just got the last screen i get right before my
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen??
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]

thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!!
regards--
allyson
-----Original Message-----
Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the
question, I'd go
with that!
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
...

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with
a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe
that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color,
so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i
didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and
leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort.
btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default
display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
.. .
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and
then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i
do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get
the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go
through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description
is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson


.



.

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

I'm not sure of all that's been attempted at fixing the problem or the =
problem itself from this thread, so I won't get into the specifics, but =
you could go into the registry and remove any/all that has to do with =
the video adapter/s within Enum.

--=20
Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.


"allyson" wrote in message =
...
=20
nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just=20
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the=20
display...' message. i checked the value--same with=20
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos=20
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would=20
not. just got the last screen i get right before my=20
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the=20
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what=20
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied=20
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i=20
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? =20
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut=20
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver=20
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and=20
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]
=20
thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!!
regards--
allyson
-----Original Message-----
Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the=20
question, I'd go=20
with that!
--=20
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in=20
message=20
...

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with=20
a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe=20
that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color,=20
so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i=20
didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and=20
leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. =20
btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default=20
display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--=20
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
.. .
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and=20
then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i=20
do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get=20
the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go=20
through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description=20
is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson


.
=20


.

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

That's correct for re-starting in MS-DOS mode - you are
getting the famous DOS prompt. You can type commands at
the prompt, such as DIR, or EXIT.

-----Original Message-----

nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the
display...' message. i checked the value--same with
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would
not. just got the last screen i get right before my
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen??
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]

thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!!
regards--
allyson
-----Original Message-----
Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the
question, I'd go
with that!
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
...

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys
with
a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it
came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe
that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color,
so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i
didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows
at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and
leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or
tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort.
btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for
display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any.
and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3
running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default
display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this
entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote
in
message
. ..
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing
everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in
safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and
then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i
do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need
to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't get
the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go
through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my
description
is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson


.



.

.

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

I'm thinking about it, but don't hold your breath (sorry)! The pnp driver
reference is correct - it means that the driver to use is the one selected
by the PlugnPlay routine based on the fact that the device can identify
itself to Windows so that the correct drivers are used. If this was the
name of a specific driver then that would be used instead, and it might be
wrong for your hardware. Some video device driver installation routines
don't update the pnp driver entry correctly, meaning that they get replaced
with whatever the driver in the INI file is, so it appears that the
installation doesn't work.

Of course, the pnp entry means that you are relying on the pnp process to
correctly identify the device, so this might be where your problem is. If
the card is not identifying itself, or if the identification is ambiguous,
Windows might be replacing the correct driver with the one that it thinks is
correct.

There might be setting in BIOS setup related to the plug and play BIOS that
would have an effect. It would also be possible to (effectively) disable
plug and play for the video by inserting the driver reference into the INI
file. This is well into the area of experimenting, which can be risky.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in message
...

nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the
display...' message. i checked the value--same with
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would
not. just got the last screen i get right before my
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen??
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]

thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!!
regards--
allyson

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

tried it. but thanks anyway.

regards--
allyson


-----Original Message-----
I'm not sure of all that's been attempted at fixing the
problem or the problem itself from this thread, so I won't
get into the specifics, but you could go into the registry
and remove any/all that has to do with the video adapter/s
within Enum.

--
Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.


"allyson" wrote in
message ...

nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem,
just
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the
display...' message. i checked the value--same with
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-
dos
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would
not. just got the last screen i get right before my
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know
what
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen??
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter
driver
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]

thanks for any assistance--this is really getting
weird!!
regards--
allyson
-----Original Message-----
Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking
the
question, I'd go
with that!
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote
in
message
...

damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys
with
a
problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the
morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it
came
back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since
the
first two times i shut down with 'restart' that
maybe
that
was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16
color,
so i
shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i
didn't
leave the pc idle long enough or something [who
knows at
this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and
leave
it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or
tomorrow
and see what happens--then i'll try your last
resort.
btw-
-i checked in current mode and the value for
display.drv
was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any.
and
also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3
running
win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident
blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-
1999
and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a
diff...]

thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!!
allyson

-----Original Message-----
There is one other possibility I can think of. It
might
be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default
display
is installed, do
Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find
the
section [boot] and
the entry display.drv. What is the value for this
entry?

Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the
entry change? Shutdown
and boot to DOS. Do
EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI
and look at the entry again. What is it now?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson"
wrote in
message
.. .
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your
suggestions

video adapter driver problems and nothing has
worked.
to
refresh your memories, in order to attain my
desired
800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video
adapter
driver at each reboot. i've tried removing
everything
and
reinstalling, removing everything and starting in
safe
mode,letting the pc install the default driver and
then
installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked
[neither
has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what
i
do,
upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then
need to
reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired
result. the only difference is that now i don't
get
the
message stating that there is a problem--i just get
the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go
through
the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my
description
is
of assistance to your advice...]???

thanks,
allyson

still having vid adapter driver probs...
 

thanks,jeff. told you i was a computard [at least where
ms-dos is concerned]. i hadn't the slightest idea what to
do. now that i do know, i find it really funny. well,
this is how we learn, no??
anyway, since the .ini thing is risky at best, i guess i
will settle for the constant reinstallation--at least i
have a cable modem, so i can use the time for
reinstallation and imagine i'm waiting for a dial-up
connection [lol]. thanks for all the help--i'm sure i'll
have another question for you before long--thanks so much
for being here and available. it really means a lot.
well, i'm off to perhaps delve into things and investigate
to see what i might find--o, by the way--NOW, when i boot
up, the screen comes up with the default resolution, but
my desired desktop color and pattern are there--will
wonders never cease?? and i'm not getting that 'problem'
message--at least for now.

thanks again--
allyson

-----Original Message-----
I'm thinking about it, but don't hold your breath
(sorry)! The pnp driver
reference is correct - it means that the driver to use is
the one selected
by the PlugnPlay routine based on the fact that the
device can identify
itself to Windows so that the correct drivers are used.
If this was the
name of a specific driver then that would be used
instead, and it might be
wrong for your hardware. Some video device driver
installation routines
don't update the pnp driver entry correctly, meaning that
they get replaced
with whatever the driver in the INI file is, so it
appears that the
installation doesn't work.

Of course, the pnp entry means that you are relying on
the pnp process to
correctly identify the device, so this might be where
your problem is. If
the card is not identifying itself, or if the
identification is ambiguous,
Windows might be replacing the correct driver with the
one that it thinks is
correct.

There might be setting in BIOS setup related to the plug
and play BIOS that
would have an effect. It would also be possible to
(effectively) disable
plug and play for the video by inserting the driver
reference into the INI
file. This is well into the area of experimenting, which
can be risky.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"allyson" wrote in
message
...

nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just
now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the
display...' message. i checked the value--same with
default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-
dos
[just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would
not. just got the last screen i get right before my
desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the
cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what
to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied
the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i
just a computard or is that not supposed to happen??
shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut
downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea...
[but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver
this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and
voila! there was my desired res/colors...]

thanks for any assistance--this is really getting
weird!!
regards--
allyson


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