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DaffyDŽ July 14th 08 05:16 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB
driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on
the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds a
new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus
Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the
"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't
work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't
work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from a
CD when Windows won't detect it?
--
{ : [|]=( DaffyDŽ

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.





DaffyDŽ July 14th 08 05:20 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1, but I
thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I need to buy a
USB 2.0 card?

"DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
...
My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB
driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on
the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds

a
new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus
Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the
"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't
work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't
work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from

a
CD when Windows won't detect it?
--
{ : [|]=( DaffyDŽ

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.







MEB[_2_] July 14th 08 07:10 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,
| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I
| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would
have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function
properly.

|
| "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| ...
| My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98
| USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the
| driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.
|
| What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows
| builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found
| the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but
| doesn't find one.
|
| I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,
| the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all
| didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The
| player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.
|
| I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________





DaffyDŽ July 14th 08 09:31 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote
about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's own
drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,
| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I
| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would
have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function
properly.

|
| "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| ...
| My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98
| USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the
| driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.
|
| What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows
| builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found
| the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but
| doesn't find one.
|
| I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,
| the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all
| didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The
| player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.
|
| I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________







glee July 14th 08 02:09 PM

Unable to install USB driver
 
An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the documentation
for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

Does he have Win98SE?

Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we could look up
its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows Explorer? If
so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer to.

If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic USB driver
for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
...
By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote
about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's own
drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,
| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I
| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would
have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function
properly.

|
| "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| ...
| My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98
| USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the
| driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.
|
| What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows
| builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found
| the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but
| doesn't find one.
|
| I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,
| the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all
| didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The
| player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.
|
| I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________








MEB[_2_] July 14th 08 06:29 PM

Unable to install USB driver
 
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune
| wrote about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it
| need it's own drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

Try one of the tools designed to query USB hubs and devices such as the
USBView which came with 98SE in the tools\reskit\diagnose folder on the
installation CDROM. It might be available on disk in the Options folder but
I doubt it.
A better alternative [due to the lack of documentation available for your
system] is one of the hardware diagnostic utilities such as Aida32, MiTeC
MSI [nice tool, does not require installation], SiSoft Sandra {Pro}
[excellent tool], Everest Home Edition, and a number of other diagnostic
tools which can provide in-depth information on chipsets, BIOS, devices,
etc.. With one of these tools you will have a better understanding of all
aspects of the computer and what it can support.

Another tool you have installed will query the system for its present
configuration. Its not generally documented or used, but everyone has it.
Its called hwinfo and is used in the run box with the commandline hwinfo
/ui . Its a good way to find out what has been found/installed, drivers,
etc..
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q185956/

Look around if you want something else or other tools, like he
http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring20...agnostics.html

|
| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
| ...
| In ,
| DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:
|
| | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB
| | 1, but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will
| | I need to buy a USB 2.0 card?
|
| USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver
| would have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
| USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to
| function properly.
|
| |
| | "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| | ...
| | My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows
| | 98 USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't
| | detect the driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware
| | wizard.
| |
| | What happens is that the driver setup program is installed,
| | Windows builds a new driver information database, detects that it
| | has found the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver
| | for it, but doesn't find one.
| |
| | I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device"
| | option, the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk"
| | and that all didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there
| | are no FAQs. The player won't work with Windows if the driver
| | isn't installed.
| |
| | I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| | driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| | --
| | { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
| |
| | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
|
| --
| MEB
|
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________





MEB[_2_] July 14th 08 07:22 PM

Unable to install USB driver
 
Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you would need a
PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed in your computer.
Generally they support either two or four USB devices [direct connect, 2
channels {or 2 split}- home/general use, or four channel {2 separate chips
with two channels each - industrial grade}] though some of the newer
chips/adapters supply four [or more] channels with a single chip.
You can add additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the amount
of USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card reader or
other as well.

You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the computer would be
still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The USB 2.0 Hub would provide the
2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and communicate
with USB 1. These devices were produced around the transitional period, and
may no longer be available {?}.

Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE drivers [-
most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of the Universal
Drivers].

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________





Franc Zabkar July 14th 08 09:03 PM

Unable to install USB driver
 
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:16:42 -0700, "DaffyDŽ" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB
driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on
the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds a
new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus
Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the
"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't
work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't
work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from a
CD when Windows won't detect it?


Use either of the following programs to detect your MP3 player:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB...VCView.x86.exe
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/usbview.exe

Look for vendor IDs and product IDs in the output. For example, here
is what I see for an MP3/MP4 player:

idVendor: 0x10D6 = Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
idProduct: 0x1101
iProduct: 0x01
English (United States) "USB 2.0(HS) Flash Disk "

In the above case I would search the CD for INF files containing the
text strings "10D6" and "1101".

Otherwise I have found that the Maximus Decim NUSB driver set will
probably work with your hardware. The MP3 player will show up as a
disc drive in Explorer and you will be able to write and read it just
like any other disc.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

DaffyDŽ July 17th 08 02:02 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
The mp3 player is a Craig Model CMA317B. It is designed to work with
Win98SE (which is our OS) and has USB 2.0 interface. I emailed their tech
support, but no surprise, there's been no response.


"glee" wrote in message
...
An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

documentation
for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

Does he have Win98SE?

Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

could look up
its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

Explorer? If
so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

to.

If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

USB driver
for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
...
By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote
about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's

own
drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,
| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I
| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

would
have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

function
properly.

|
| "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| ...
| My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98
| USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the
| driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.
|
| What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows
| builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found
| the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but
| doesn't find one.
|
| I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,
| the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all
| didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The
| player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.
|
| I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________










DaffyDŽ July 17th 08 02:04 AM

Unable to install USB driver
 
I forgot to mention that the installer CD has a folder tree and I pointed to
the folder(s) where the driver should be but Windows still couldn't find the
driver. I even copied the file folders to the desktop but it still doesn't
work.

"glee" wrote in message
...
An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

documentation
for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

Does he have Win98SE?

Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

could look up
its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

Explorer? If
so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

to.

If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

USB driver
for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
...
By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote
about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's

own
drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
In ,
DaffyDŽ contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,
| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I
| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

would
have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.
USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

function
properly.

|
| "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
| ...
| My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98
| USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the
| driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.
|
| What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows
| builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found
| the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but
| doesn't find one.
|
| I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,
| the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all
| didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The
| player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.
|
| I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB
| driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________











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