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I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME
pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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John,
Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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Hi Mike,
I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates folders under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder named DRIVERS, but when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this folder it does not recognise what is there!;presumably the installation process when it stops does not get to the installation of the appropriate driver. Thanks John "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this
folder it does not recognise what is there!; Can you please confirm that the folder contains a file with an INF extension? If not that is why the installation cannot proceed. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates folders under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder named DRIVERS, but when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this folder it does not recognise what is there!;presumably the installation process when it stops does not get to the installation of the appropriate driver. |
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Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf;
I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not loaded! John "Mike M" wrote in message ... when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this folder it does not recognise what is there!; Can you please confirm that the folder contains a file with an INF extension? If not that is why the installation cannot proceed. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, I have already done what you suggest; the part installation creates folders under a primary folder 'RaLink',one of which is a folder named DRIVERS, but when I point the Dev.Man./Unkown Device to this folder it does not recognise what is there!;presumably the installation process when it stops does not get to the installation of the appropriate driver. |
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You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder
containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file. Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again. Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009? FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the file. Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf; I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not loaded! |
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Thanks for your continued interest Mike.
Here is the whole story: I have a USB/WIRELESS adapter bought for me, but unfortunately for use on Vista/WinXP systems.The device in question is the Edimax EW7318USG Wireless LAN Adapter 4dBi Antenna 802.11b.g.Mbps. I contacted Edimax for details of a Driver that would enable me to use their adapter on my WinME PC.They directed me to a download point on their site.This I downloaded as a zip file (I also downloaded a Win98 zip file to compare, and they look the same, with the same unzipped contents - I have tried this also in an attempt to get the driver loaded but again without success). I downloaded the zip to a memory stick on my other XP pc (I have no internet connection on my ME pc; this is why I need the adapter working). The memory stick was plugged into my ME pc from where I unzipped it (using WinZip) to a RaLink.exe file.When this launched an Installsheild window comes up with the usual install progress band across it; I can see various named files being installed as the band moves across the screen, until no more file names appear , with the band fully across the screen with the word 'Installing' only; but at this point the installation stops.To get me out of this position I use Wndows Task Manager to end a couple of RaLink tasks which are not responding.But when I look for any installed files I can find C:/Program Files/Ralink folder with sub folders Common and Drivers (where I find the driver previously mentioned).In StartPrograms there is also a Ralink Utility program, which does nothing when run.( both with the adapter fitted and without). Each time I have tried starting from scratch again, I have 'searched' for Ralink files/folders and deleted them. - but with no avail, always stopping at same point. Because the installation doesnt complete I can only point to the only 'inf' file installed as mentioned via Dev.Man./Unknown Devices/Update Driver You mention with yours you get 'aegise2.dll file installed in an 'Aegis' folder, but I dont get this folder or file; perhaps this is where my installation stops i.e prior to 'aegise2.dll' being installed. Long winded I know but I remain stuck! Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file. Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again. Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009? FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the file. Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf; I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not loaded! |
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Hi Mike,
Further Info: Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created 3 Sept. 2007 ; size 31.2MB Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file. Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again. Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009? FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the file. Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf; I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not loaded! |
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JohnN wrote:
Hi Mike, Further Info: Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created 3 Sept. 2007 ; size 31.2MB John, That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and installed. Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the driver. The file I downloaded from the RALink site (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Hom...t/Windows.html) was, for 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15: IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes) Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009). I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-( I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if you have better luck with that one. -- Mike Maltby |
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Hi Mike,
If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page( see attachment) and install, do you think this might work? Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... You say that when you point the Dev Man | Unknown Device at the folder containing rt25u98.inf that the driver wizard doesn't recognise the file. Are you saying that the driver install fails at this point or are you able to move to the next step and the install fails there? Normally the "wizard" allows one to continue once it is pointed at a folder containing an inf file. If you haven't already done so, it might be a good idea to clear out any remnants of your previous failed installations and then try again. Which version of the driver are you using? v2.1.1.15 dated 12 Feb 2009? FYI I have just downloaded the v2.1.1.15 driver package from the Ralink site and installed it (using the downloaded exe file) without any problem on a Win Me system here although it should be noted that I don't have a usb wi-fi card with a Ralink 2500 chipset. Have you tried installing the driver _without_ the usb device present and only plugging in the wi-fi device when the installation is complete? Incidentally my installation (which was the "full" installation using the exe rather than just the driver) installed aegise2.dll to the Program Files\Ralink\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Aegis folder and gave no message about being unable to locate the file. Any chance that after FIVE posts you might actually name the make and model of the device? At least I now know that it apparently uses the Ralink 2500 chipset but knowing the manufacturer and model would be of considerable help and might help establish why you are having problems. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Yes; the ONE 'inf' file is rt25u98.inf; I presume 98 refers to Windows98 which in my case is WindowsME, the file perhaps common to both '98 and'ME.Otherwise the WinME inf file has not loaded! |
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John,
I take it you didn't read my last post before you made your post. :-) HOWEVER having read your post timed at 19:02 BST I see the Edimax wi-fi card appears to perhaps use an older 7* RALink chipset. It "might" work and there is I feel little to be lost by trying. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page( see attachment) and install, do you think this might work? |
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Update:
I have now downloaded the driver you were using from the Edimax UK site. Zip file: EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip Containing: Ralink RT7x_070903.exe I next compared the files installed using RT7x_070903.exe with those I installed previously. I use SFC from Win98 for this. A number of the files contained in RT7x_070903.exe are older versions than those I installed previously including some of the Aegis files, the RALink Utility (RaUI.exe) and importantly, the actual wi-fi driver file itself rt24u98.sys which is v2.01.01.0000 dated 8 November 2006 whereas the version in the file I downloaded from the RALink site is v2.01.01.0015 dated 12 Feb 2009. More importantly however is that the driver from the Edimax site also includes the driver files rt73u98.sys and rt73.bin and given that the name of your card is EW7318USG this suggest that the chipset used in your wi-fi adapter is 73* series rather than 25* so if the updated driver from the RALink site still doesn't work try again installing using the earlier RT7x_070903.exe and going the Dev Manager route with the card inserted and point it at the file rt73.inf in C:\Program Files\RALINK\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Driver folder rather than rt25u98.sys What I feel is a problem is that the install seems not to complete but rather stalls and that you are using the Task Manager to terminate the installation. Not a good sign and not something I have been able to replicate. What exactly happens, such as error message seen, when you insert the adapter. What happens if you leave the installation "running" and go and make yourself a coffee? Does it eventually complete? -- Mike Maltby Mike M wrote: That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and installed. Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the driver. The file I downloaded from the RALink site (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Hom...t/Windows.html) was, for 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15: IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes) Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009). I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-( I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if you have better luck with that one. |
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Hi Mike,
I've downloaded and run the latest file from RaLink website, but get the same result - it will not complete the install process from the'exe' file.??? How long does it take to install yours? Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, Further Info: Unzipped file is Ralink RT7x_070903 ; Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created 3 Sept. 2007 ; size 31.2MB John, That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and installed. Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the driver. The file I downloaded from the RALink site (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Hom...t/Windows.html) was, for 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15: IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes) Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009). I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-( I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if you have better luck with that one. -- Mike Maltby |
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Hi Mike,
I dont get any 73* files loaded! I have tried leaving the installation running for 30mins. without result! At present I have the Ralink site version on my pc; I will try the Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old Symantec Systemworks protection. If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to the registry? I will keep you informed of my progress. Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... Update: I have now downloaded the driver you were using from the Edimax UK site. Zip file: EW-7618Ug_EW-7318USg_EW-7318Ug_Ralink RT7x_070903.zip Containing: Ralink RT7x_070903.exe I next compared the files installed using RT7x_070903.exe with those I installed previously. I use SFC from Win98 for this. A number of the files contained in RT7x_070903.exe are older versions than those I installed previously including some of the Aegis files, the RALink Utility (RaUI.exe) and importantly, the actual wi-fi driver file itself rt24u98.sys which is v2.01.01.0000 dated 8 November 2006 whereas the version in the file I downloaded from the RALink site is v2.01.01.0015 dated 12 Feb 2009. More importantly however is that the driver from the Edimax site also includes the driver files rt73u98.sys and rt73.bin and given that the name of your card is EW7318USG this suggest that the chipset used in your wi-fi adapter is 73* series rather than 25* so if the updated driver from the RALink site still doesn't work try again installing using the earlier RT7x_070903.exe and going the Dev Manager route with the card inserted and point it at the file rt73.inf in C:\Program Files\RALINK\RT7x Wireless LAN Card\Driver folder rather than rt25u98.sys What I feel is a problem is that the install seems not to complete but rather stalls and that you are using the Task Manager to terminate the installation. Not a good sign and not something I have been able to replicate. What exactly happens, such as error message seen, when you insert the adapter. What happens if you leave the installation "running" and go and make yourself a coffee? Does it eventually complete? -- Mike Maltby Mike M wrote: That appears to be an older version than the one I downloaded and installed. Version 12.0.0.58849 ; created I think this may be the version of InstallShield rather than that of the driver. The file I downloaded from the RALink site (http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Hom...t/Windows.html) was, for 98/Me/2K/XP, build 2.1.1.15: IS_AP_STA_2500USB_D-2.1.1.15_VA-3.1.0.0_RU-2.1.1.0_VA-2.1.1.0_AU-2.0.0.0_VA-2.0.0.0_021209_0.1.0.46_Free.exe Size 33.9 MB (35,625,327 bytes) Date (as per RALink - 12 Feb 2009). I've got an Edimax PCMCIA wi-fi adapter and also an Edimax PCI wi-fi card available that I use for testing but not a usb adapter. :-( I'd suggest your next move should be to download a copy of the updated driver that I used from the RALink site (use the link above) and see if you have better luck with that one. |
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Hi Mike,
Did you see my previous post of today? I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?. What do you think of trying your files? Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, I take it you didn't read my last post before you made your post. :-) HOWEVER having read your post timed at 19:02 BST I see the Edimax wi-fi card appears to perhaps use an older 7* RALink chipset. It "might" work and there is I feel little to be lost by trying. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, If I were to download this Driver USB(RT2500USB)from Ralink Web page( see attachment) and install, do you think this might work? |
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Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old
Symantec Systemworks protection John, No wonder you're having problems. I'm sorry but I won't be able to help until you have removed all traces of Symantec software from your system, none of which has ever been compatible with Win Me and has been the cause of more posts to the Win Me NGs since Win Me was released than any other software. You might want to start by having a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. Out of curiosity how many files does this contain and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that matches the template oem*.inf? If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to the registry? Not a problem but not until you confirm all traces of Symantec's systemnotworks software has been removed from your system. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, I dont get any 73* files loaded! I have tried leaving the installation running for 30mins. without result! At present I have the Ralink site version on my pc; I will try the Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old Symantec Systemworks protection. If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to the registry? I will keep you informed of my progress. |
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John,
Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this contain and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that match the template oem*.inf? What do you think of trying your files? I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've got rid of SystemNotWork. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, Did you see my previous post of today? I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?. What do you think of trying your files? |
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Hi Mike,
C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this contain and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that match the template oem*.inf? What do you think of trying your files? I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've got rid of SystemNotWork. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, Did you see my previous post of today? I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?. What do you think of trying your files? |
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John,
Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=301540 (which is still available) is also
relevant here, although there the cause is slightly different, the result is the same, and the removal procedure is identical. I doubt very much that MS will offer the hotfix any more - as they aren't delivered in the same way as they were at the time that ME was supported - and anyhow, the best solution is to remove all traces of Symantec software from any ME system (as I know you've already said, Mike). -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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"Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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Oh dear! - what is this obsession that people have with registry cleaners?
Which one did you run? does it store a backup you can use to recover the original position? (If so, the please use it!) Registry cleaners should only be used by those who know enough about the registry that they don't need one :) More often than not, when using registry cleaners, the system ends up in a worse state than previously, due to either faults in the cleaners detection process, or faults in its logic. either way, using one as a problem-solving tool is tantamount to throwing out the baby with the bathwater - and then throwing the bath away as well. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "JohnN" wrote in message . uk... "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
John, Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer. I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing. Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems such as Win Me. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. |
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Hi Mike,
If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and programs; would this be OK? Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. John, Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer. I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing. Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems such as Win Me. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. |
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JohnN wrote:
Hi Mike, If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and programs; would this be OK? John, Possibly but it depends on how deep seated the problem is. Note however that if you do decide to re-install Win Me over itself there are two essential actions you must take first. The first being to uninstall IE6 if installed otherwise IE and many other associated files will end up as incompatible versions and cause problems not only with IE but other components of the operating system that use those files. Secondly, if you have WMP 9 installed, it is essential that you either delete or rename the file wmploc.dll to say wmploc.old before carrying out the re-install. Noel has some notes (http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/ME_Gen/r...ver_itself.htm) on re-installing Win Me that you might want to read before you start. -- Mike Maltby |
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Mike wrote:-
..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me **you are quite possibly wasting your time.** Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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Thanks for your comments Mark,
I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download suitable driver. John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike wrote:- ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me **you are quite possibly wasting your time.** Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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Mart,
What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
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John,
Nevertheless you should still be able to install the driver regardless of whether it will work with the adapter on Win Me. That is something you have apparently been unable to do up until now on your Win Me system. Until you can get the driver to install (and I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that it will install on a system running Win Me, but cannot determine whether it works or not as I don't have an EW-7318Ug adapter with which to test), there is no point in inserting the usb adapter. I'm tempted to buy an Edimax EW-7318Ug and see it I can get it to work on a Win Me box as I see they are available at CCL Computers for £8.12 including p+p. I'll have to think about it though as my Netgear DG834PN router seems to have died overnight and I've had to drop back to my ISP supplied TG585v7 which I find a horrible bit of kit. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Thanks for your comments Mark, I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download suitable driver. |
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Hi Mike,
Dont buy an adapter to prove your installation is OK; I'm sure it is and that if I can get the Driver installed I think my adapter will be OK. I'm having second thoughts about the merits of re-installing WinME! Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
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Mike wrote :-
What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device... Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
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Mart,
Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0 ports. I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box. I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last night. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. |
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A couple of points Mark;
At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is 1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will be OK John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike wrote :- What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device... Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
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Mike/John
.. I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK site :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :- http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id= does not. I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will (apparently) install but the system then halts before completion. Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0 ports. I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box. I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last night. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. |
Unable to Install Driver
Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to
run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in? Error reports? Completion?? If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in? Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc. Mart "JohnN" wrote in message . uk... A couple of points Mark; At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is 1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will be OK John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike wrote :- What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device... Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
Unable to Install Driver
Hi Mike
These are the folders/files that get installed; I'd be interested to know from you which files I dont install?(ie those omitted from the complete installation. C:\Program Files\RalinkCommonRACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;R aUI C:\Program Files\RalinkRT7xWireless LANCardDriverColnstaller.dll;difxapi.dll;Ralnst; Ralnst64;RalOx64;rt25u98;tr25u98.sys;setacl C:\Program Files\RalinkRT7xWireless LANCardUtilityRACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI StartProgramsRalink WirelessRalink Utility Clicking this Ralink Utilty only puts an Icon in the system tray which does nothing. John "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
Unable to Install Driver
Hi Mart,
With or without stick ;all combinations tried - same result, As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' and attempts to update driver = not found, indicating driver installation has not completed, as we know! John "Mart" wrote in message ... Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in? Error reports? Completion?? If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in? Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc. Mart "JohnN" wrote in message . uk... A couple of points Mark; At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is 1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will be OK John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike wrote :- What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device... Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. |
Unable to Install Driver
Hi Mark,
I've tried Edimax Tech Support and like Mike they have no problems with ME Driver installation. John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike/John .. I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK site :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :- http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id= does not. I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will (apparently) install but the system then halts before completion. Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0 ports. I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box. I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last night. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. |
Unable to Install Driver
"Mart" wrote in message ... Mike/John .. I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK site :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :- http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id= does not. I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will (apparently) install but the system then halts before completion. Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php I've tried Tech Support but like Mike they have no problems installing WinME driver. John Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0. Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0 ports. I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box. I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last night. -- Mike Maltby Mart wrote: Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility. FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year. A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out any details. That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable. I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC? Extract form MSN TechNet article:- Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE snip " Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0? A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows. To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings. /snip So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech Support. |
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