System restore
Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any advice. |
Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore?
No I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. IMO unlikely although the control files in the C:\_RESTORE folder might be damaged in which case resetting system restore is usually enough to fix the problem. Incidentally far more applications than firewalls can cause system restore not to create automatic checkpoints. Have you eliminated all applications you have installed that run each time you boot your PC? Before we dive in and try fixing things that may not be broken could you please try the following quick test to help narrow down the problem. a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file. b) Create a manual checkpoint Could you create a checkpoint? c) Delete the shortcut d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created. Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages? e) Reboot your PC Was the checkpoint retained? Regards, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any advice. |
Hi Mike, I did what you suggested and the check point was created. The
shortcut was restored. And no error messeages and the check point was retained. I have elimnated all other applications that it might be. It must be the firewall because when I shut the firewall down the restore works fine and when it's enabled it won't work at all. Although I can create manual restore points. "Mike M" wrote: Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. IMO unlikely although the control files in the C:\_RESTORE folder might be damaged in which case resetting system restore is usually enough to fix the problem. Incidentally far more applications than firewalls can cause system restore not to create automatic checkpoints. Have you eliminated all applications you have installed that run each time you boot your PC? Before we dive in and try fixing things that may not be broken could you please try the following quick test to help narrow down the problem. a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file. b) Create a manual checkpoint Could you create a checkpoint? c) Delete the shortcut d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created. Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages? e) Reboot your PC Was the checkpoint retained? Regards, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any advice. |
Peter,
You have now demonstrated that there is nothing wrong with System Restore. The problem could well be due to your firewall logging activity. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Hi Mike, I did what you suggested and the check point was created. The shortcut was restored. And no error messeages and the check point was retained. I have elimnated all other applications that it might be. It must be the firewall because when I shut the firewall down the restore works fine and when it's enabled it won't work at all. Although I can create manual restore points. |
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: I have elimnated all other applications that it might be. It must be the firewall because when I shut the firewall down the restore works fine and when it's enabled it won't work at all. FWIW, I use Agnitum Outpost v1 firewall (freeware) and have no problems with system restore. -- Adam and Eve - the worlds happiest couple ever. Neither had a mother-in-law. |
Thanks for the advice Mike and Doc. I tried the Outpost, the same thing
happened.I guess I'm screwed!!!! "Peter" wrote: Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any advice. |
Peter.
If it is your firewall, although odd that this happens regardless of the firewall you are using, then don't forget that system restore is still working, all that is happening is that it isn't creating automatic checkpoints. In other words it is still archiving copies of amended and deleted system files but you will only be able to restore to checkpoints that you deliberately created. Some would even say that this is the best approach as this means you know the exact state of your system when each checkpoint was created rather than having to take pot luck from a collection of checkpoints created at random times when the state of the system is in some way unknown. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Thanks for the advice Mike and Doc. I tried the Outpost, the same thing happened.I guess I'm screwed!!!! |
Peter
Do you have Spybot S & D installed? and if so is teatimer running? Uncheck teatimer as one cause of preventing SR making auto RPs. (this was the case in v1.03, I did inform the Spybot folk but never had a reply). Don't know if this issue has been fixed in v1.04. Maybe siljaline can advise. Delboy "Peter" wrote in message ... Is it possible to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any advice. |
The free ZA 5.5.094.000 personal firewall is working just fine here under
winME, and SR sometimes creates three auto checkpoints in a day. Peter should install the new version, even replacing the current one with a freshly DL'd copy if he is using ver. .094. Both Mike M and Heirloom recently reported that other interfering programs were responsicle fo their lack of Sr auto points. I suspect the same is true for Peter. Time to inspect MSconfig/Startup and any process viewer to identify the culprit. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mike M" wrote in message ... Peter. If it is your firewall, although odd that this happens regardless of the firewall you are using, then don't forget that system restore is still working, all that is happening is that it isn't creating automatic checkpoints. In other words it is still archiving copies of amended and deleted system files but you will only be able to restore to checkpoints that you deliberately created. Some would even say that this is the best approach as this means you know the exact state of your system when each checkpoint was created rather than having to take pot luck from a collection of checkpoints created at random times when the state of the system is in some way unknown. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Thanks for the advice Mike and Doc. I tried the Outpost, the same thing happened.I guess I'm screwed!!!! |
My suspicion is that the OP has activated the logging capabilities of the
various firewalls - and not realised that such an action means that the firewall will write to the disk every xx seconds - if that time-period is extended beyond 120seconds, then there's a good chance that SR will function as advertised (if the firewall can't offer such an option, then try turning off all logging, and see if that works - then try activating logging of specific events....) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... The free ZA 5.5.094.000 personal firewall is working just fine here under winME, and SR sometimes creates three auto checkpoints in a day. Peter should install the new version, even replacing the current one with a freshly DL'd copy if he is using ver. .094. Both Mike M and Heirloom recently reported that other interfering programs were responsicle fo their lack of Sr auto points. I suspect the same is true for Peter. Time to inspect MSconfig/Startup and any process viewer to identify the culprit. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mike M" wrote in message ... Peter. If it is your firewall, although odd that this happens regardless of the firewall you are using, then don't forget that system restore is still working, all that is happening is that it isn't creating automatic checkpoints. In other words it is still archiving copies of amended and deleted system files but you will only be able to restore to checkpoints that you deliberately created. Some would even say that this is the best approach as this means you know the exact state of your system when each checkpoint was created rather than having to take pot luck from a collection of checkpoints created at random times when the state of the system is in some way unknown. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Peter wrote: Thanks for the advice Mike and Doc. I tried the Outpost, the same thing happened.I guess I'm screwed!!!! |
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