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Isaac July 2nd 04 12:07 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
Terry wrote in
:

Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are attempted.

TIA




Win98 is immune for most worms which make cyberspace dangerous. XP can be
slightly faster. I wouldn't upgrade.

Terry July 2nd 04 12:16 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are attempted.

TIA



Gary S. Terhune July 2nd 04 02:03 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
That's a totally false statement.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Isaac" - wrote in message ...
Terry wrote in
:

Win98 is immune for most worms which make cyberspace dangerous. XP can be
slightly faster. I wouldn't upgrade.



Isaac July 2nd 04 02:05 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
Terry wrote in
:

Thanks Isaac.

Ok..so best protection for "worms"...?
I use AVG anti-virus.
What else would you suggest..Firewall ..etc.

Regards
Terry
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:07:59 -0000, Isaac - wrote:

Terry wrote in
m:

Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with
say 'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are
attempted.

TIA




Win98 is immune for most worms which make cyberspace dangerous. XP can
be slightly faster. I wouldn't upgrade.



An antivirus program cannot protect you against worms like Blaster and
Sasser. These worms get into your computer via an open port (which is open
by default on W2000 and XP), and will be executed from memory without
having been written to disk. So the virusscanner has nothing to scan. So
you'll have to use an OS which doesn't open these ports (like W98) or a
firewall. When you connect to internet via a NAT router, you're safe too.
Almost every modem-router which allows you to connect more than one
computer for access to internet, does NAT, and will act as a hardware
firewall. It is always preferable to also use a software firewall, because
it will warn you when strange programs (like email worms, spyware) try to
access the net. I use Agnituim Outpost (free), and I'm very content with
it.

Terry July 2nd 04 02:25 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
Thanks Isaac.

Ok..so best protection for "worms"...?
I use AVG anti-virus.
What else would you suggest..Firewall ..etc.

Regards
Terry
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:07:59 -0000, Isaac - wrote:

Terry wrote in
:

Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are attempted.

TIA




Win98 is immune for most worms which make cyberspace dangerous. XP can be
slightly faster. I wouldn't upgrade.



Gary S. Terhune July 2nd 04 02:31 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
As time progresses over the next 18 months to two years, your system will
become more and more incapable of handling new apps, upgrades, etc. You have
no further upgrade ability in Office or Internet Explorer, and most
Antivirus and anti-parasite apps, multi-media apps, things like Adobe
Reader, etc. will not likely have 98/98SE compatibility in their next
generations.

What Isaac claims is simply not true. Please do yourself a favor and ignore
his advice.

My advice to you--If you are happy with what you have, and willing to be
vigilant about possible new vulnerability exploits (i.e., don't get sucked
in by blatantly false claims that Win98 is "Safer than XP"), and willing to
put up with increasingly being left at the starting line with regard to new
software and hardware support (present case of scramble to upgrade to 98SE
in order to support USB2 and for other reasons being a fine example), then
stick with what you have for as long as it's comfortable.

However, while I think you might very well run into problems upgrading to XP
from 98SE, if it ever becomes a question of what to reinstall from scratch,
then definitely take the plunge. With the 98-to-XP path, what actually
happens is a replacement of the entire system, so you may as well use File
and Settings Transfer Wizard and start fresh anyway (and convert to NTFS
file system for better security while you're at it.) For some good help with
upgrading to XP, you should start here.:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Terry" wrote in message
...
Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are attempted.

TIA




Isaac July 2nd 04 03:07 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:Olz5pTDYEHA.1000
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

That's a totally false statement.


Oh? You've got worms and worms. Some are spreading itself via mail, like
netsky and mydoom. You can stop these by not opening the attachment, or by
having an up to date virusscanner. Some worms come through open ports, like
blaster and sasser. You'll just have to switch on your computer and wait.
If you're use W2000 or XP. W98 is immune, because it has not opened these
ports. In '98 Bill was not yet aware of the possibilities of plumbing a
system full of junk needing to open a port, mostly unnessesary, but skilful
in rare situations, like DCOM or UPnP.

XP is slightly faster because it can dynamically change the MTU size. This
will make networkaccess some more efficient.

Gary S. Terhune July 2nd 04 03:38 PM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
You confuse the bug with it's mode of distribution. You confuse true
vulnerability with proper settings (and yes, I agree that default settings
are often improper, but that's just as true--in fact much *more* so--in
Win9x.) You derive large truths from specific instances--always bad form.
You're doing an awful lot of mixing of apples and oranges--and plums and
avocadoes and mangoes and... Best you can hope for is a tasty salad.

All in all you're quite confused and confusing. All in all, you statements
include minimal bits of truth but are largely misleading. Like that MTU
statement--possibly true in some abstractly pure, theoretical sense, but
absolutely meaningless in the real world.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Isaac" - wrote in message ...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:Olz5pTDYEHA.1000
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

That's a totally false statement.


Oh? You've got worms and worms. Some are spreading itself via mail, like
netsky and mydoom. You can stop these by not opening the attachment, or by
having an up to date virusscanner. Some worms come through open ports,

like
blaster and sasser. You'll just have to switch on your computer and wait.
If you're use W2000 or XP. W98 is immune, because it has not opened these
ports. In '98 Bill was not yet aware of the possibilities of plumbing a
system full of junk needing to open a port, mostly unnessesary, but

skilful
in rare situations, like DCOM or UPnP.

XP is slightly faster because it can dynamically change the MTU size. This
will make networkaccess some more efficient.



ppoatt July 3rd 04 03:35 AM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
I mainly agree with Gary. If you like games 98 is a
better format for them. XP kind of scrimps on the
resources for games where 98 will use everything the
machine has to run them.
Keep 98 as long as progress will allow. In the mean time
get another smaller,slave,HD and store you back ups on it.
Then when the time comes to upgrade to XP you can do a
full format and fresh install of XP. And still have all
your important stuff saved.
-----Original Message-----
Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet

useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know

more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need

it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better

off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with

98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all

my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the

PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades

are attempted.

TIA


.


Lil' Dave July 3rd 04 10:00 AM

Upgrade....can I avoid..help please
 
Just my experiences. Don't change OSes until moving to another newer,
faster motherboard or newer, faster PC.
NT/2K/XP seem faster accessing the internet or networking period at default
installation. These also seem to need more protection nowadays,
disfunctionalizing the networking speed factor vs. 98/98SE/ME.
Another alternative is to use a boot manager that will hide OSes from each
other entirely including their boot files, and these OSes will be on
separate partitions. MS has website that describes both hardware
requirements, and workable applications for XP. A downloadable file is
available from MS that will check your PC to see if it will work with XP,
its a big, big file.
Based on what you wrote for usage, see no reason to change.
"Terry" wrote in message
...
Win98se
Athlon 2.2
512m/b ram
60gig h/d
Office XP
Epson Printer & Scanner

End user..odd game....spreadshhet work...& basic internet useage.

I am about to connect to ADSL from DUN, and wish to know more about
how the various O/S's would or would not improve my system
significantly. Support for 98SE, only if I should need it..?

I am happy with 98SE but unsure if I would be any better off with say
'XP'.??........speeds??

What are the differences in O/S's ??

Do I need to U/G.

I am able to run my mostly used App' (Office XP) ok with 98SE.

I do not fancy reformatting as it took a while to get all my many
Apps' & utils' etc. installed, as well as customising the PC.

I read here of many problems encountered when upgrades are attempted.

TIA






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