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Can't start windows
My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the
computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
"Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you
cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool
mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed to
delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be possible, but young minds...). I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your data. See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't strictly apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get there in the end..... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your PC!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
Not having seen or manipulated your machine, I concur with Noel, if a SR
doesn't succeed. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed to delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be possible, but young minds...). I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your data. See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't strictly apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get there in the end..... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your PC!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
I haven't got a windows start up disk, I only have a Product recovery cd-rom,
an international installation disk and a floppy that says atapi device driver v 0.02 for dos/windows 3.1(I don't know if that has anything to do with it). The page you sent me to says to delete windows media and IE6 before loading, which I obviously can't do, then it says to boot using a start up disk, which I haven't got. Can I download one from somewhere on to here and then take it over there. When I start the computer it goes through all the steps in the beginning and then it does a scan of the computer because it hasn't shut down properly, I noticed that when it does this the part at the top only says floppy and c drive and the floppy says 5.25 floppy, i don't know if that makes any difference, I jsut thought I would mention it. There is no problem with loosing data as there was nothing on there, only the basics that it started with. I will read through that article you gave me and see if anything else helps, I only gave it a quick read this morning. "Noel Paton" wrote: From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed to delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be possible, but young minds...). I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your data. See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't strictly apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get there in the end..... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your PC!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
You can get the files for making a WinME EBD, aka, boot disk, at
www.bootdisk.com http://www.startdisk.com/ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... I haven't got a windows start up disk, I only have a Product recovery cd-rom, an international installation disk and a floppy that says atapi device driver v 0.02 for dos/windows 3.1(I don't know if that has anything to do with it). The page you sent me to says to delete windows media and IE6 before loading, which I obviously can't do, then it says to boot using a start up disk, which I haven't got. Can I download one from somewhere on to here and then take it over there. When I start the computer it goes through all the steps in the beginning and then it does a scan of the computer because it hasn't shut down properly, I noticed that when it does this the part at the top only says floppy and c drive and the floppy says 5.25 floppy, i don't know if that makes any difference, I jsut thought I would mention it. There is no problem with loosing data as there was nothing on there, only the basics that it started with. I will read through that article you gave me and see if anything else helps, I only gave it a quick read this morning. "Noel Paton" wrote: From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed to delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be possible, but young minds...). I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your data. See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't strictly apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get there in the end..... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your PC!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
Hmmm - the mention of the 5.25 floppy is a little worrying (unless you are
lucky enough to have such an antique installed!). From what you say, it sounds as if your BIOS may have been reset to the default - which can be either good, or bad, depending on the age of the motherboard and BIOS. If you're unable to create the boot disk from the links that Jack has posted, then let us know the error messages you get, and we'll see what we can do. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I haven't got a windows start up disk, I only have a Product recovery cd-rom, an international installation disk and a floppy that says atapi device driver v 0.02 for dos/windows 3.1(I don't know if that has anything to do with it). The page you sent me to says to delete windows media and IE6 before loading, which I obviously can't do, then it says to boot using a start up disk, which I haven't got. Can I download one from somewhere on to here and then take it over there. When I start the computer it goes through all the steps in the beginning and then it does a scan of the computer because it hasn't shut down properly, I noticed that when it does this the part at the top only says floppy and c drive and the floppy says 5.25 floppy, i don't know if that makes any difference, I jsut thought I would mention it. There is no problem with loosing data as there was nothing on there, only the basics that it started with. I will read through that article you gave me and see if anything else helps, I only gave it a quick read this morning. "Noel Paton" wrote: From your description, it would seem that your young lad has managed to delete some critical files from the Windows folder (shouldn't be possible, but young minds...). I suspect that your only option is likely to be to reinstall ME over itself - and hope that doing so doesn't remove access to some of your data. See what sense you can make out of the following link - it doesn't strictly apply in your case, but should give you the guidelines you need to get there in the end..... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm post back with questions BEFORE doing anything irreversible to your PC!! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have been in to the question you mention, but is this restore tool mentioned, the one that is on the computer for restoring, if it is then this wasn't working before this happened to the computer. There was some problem with the memory and there wasn't enough to run the restore tool. I was trying to sort this out, but the young boy was over zealous and tried to get some memory by deleting a large file. So is there any other way of doing this??? "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: "Fortunately System Restore can often be run from a command prompt when you cannot start Win Me or even boot into Safe Mode.. What is involved is booting to DOS using a floppy and editing C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI such that the line shell=explorer.exe reads instead shell=progman.exe. After removing the floppy see if you can boot the PC so that Program Manager is launched after which you may be able to run System Restore. For full details see MS KB 279736 - "How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736). -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP 3/14/2003 ------ -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... My neighbours son had a new game for Christmas, went to put it on and the computer said, not enough memory, so in his haste to get this game on he went into winme folder and deleted a file. Now we can't get the computer to load up past the password page. I have tried to load in safe mode, but nothing. I have tried putting the retore disc in but it won't recognise it. Any suggestions -- Happy New Year |
Whoa - who are you calling antique? I've got one box here with twin
floppies, a 3½/5¼ combo drive. It started life in a Viglen in around 1989 and since then has moved from one PC to another as I've built new machines. Now where did I put that floppy with Frogger? -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Noel Paton wrote: Hmmm - the mention of the 5.25 floppy is a little worrying (unless you are lucky enough to have such an antique installed!). From what you say, it sounds as if your BIOS may have been reset to the default - which can be either good, or bad, depending on the age of the motherboard and BIOS. If you're unable to create the boot disk from the links that Jack has posted, then let us know the error messages you get, and we'll see what we can do. |
I'm actually trying to finagle a 5.25" drive out of work - I put three old
boxes into the junkpile in the server room, with a note to the boss that I may be able to find 'worthy causes' if they didn't want them..... I'm not holding my breath. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mike M" wrote in message ... Whoa - who are you calling antique? I've got one box here with twin floppies, a 3½/5¼ combo drive. It started life in a Viglen in around 1989 and since then has moved from one PC to another as I've built new machines. Now where did I put that floppy with Frogger? -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Noel Paton wrote: Hmmm - the mention of the 5.25 floppy is a little worrying (unless you are lucky enough to have such an antique installed!). From what you say, it sounds as if your BIOS may have been reset to the default - which can be either good, or bad, depending on the age of the motherboard and BIOS. If you're unable to create the boot disk from the links that Jack has posted, then let us know the error messages you get, and we'll see what we can do. |
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